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CAUTION

Barry Carter wrote this summary recently about the past experiences of the pioneers of this research:

The material that Hudson supplied to people contained about half a percent of ORMUS gold.

The gentleman who fasted for 43 days and had the kundalini awakening experience did not take any pure ORMUS gold during that period. Much later he took "very little" ORMUS gold for "not very long".

David Hudson also implied that this gentleman was going through the "Egyptian Rite of Passage" which was a nine month process which started with a fast and ended with the person becoming a "light being" himself:

"According to the "Secrets of the Golden Flower", it takes 10 lunar months, which happens to be the same as the Egyptian's said, 9 solar months, same time frame, but at the end of this, at the ninth month, he literally becomes a light being.  It's the breaking through of the cosmic egg, and he literally becomes a light being, capable of levitating and capable of bio-locating.  To literally disappear here and reappear someplace else."

Hudson suggested that this gentleman would become a "light being" if he continued to take the powder for nine months in his 1995 Dallas lecture. A July 27, 1996 interview with this gentleman revealed that he started the fast "About two years ago". At the time of the interview he said "I still take material but I don't take it in that volume". He also admitted that he had not bio-located.

Despite these facts, David Hudson continued to imply that ingesting the white powder for nine months, after a forty day fast, would enable one to have some sort of ultimate transcendent experience. Hudson continued to imply this as late as his 1999 lecture in Dallas. When asked what had happened to the gentleman who had done the fast he said something like that the gentleman had quit taking the material before the nine months were up.

Here are the problems that I see might arise from some of these misconceptions:

People might think that a forty-day fast while ingesting the m-state materials will inevitably lead to "enlightenment". There is no evidence that this is true. In fact the gentleman who did the fast suggested that it was not true at all when he said:

"I knew what to do. But there are very, very few people who do. This takes place internally. It's an active process. You're not going to sit there and have this zip through you and all of the sudden these wonderful things are there. It can't be that way. That's not the way the circuit is set up in your system. Your chakras and realizations are not built that way. Nothing is built that way. And to expect something outside of that is absolute foolishness."

People often mistake the signposts of psychic powers and kundalini awakening for the destination. In a sense, there is no destination since this implies an end of change. If someone gets to a psychic or kundalini awakened space and hangs there then they are clinging to the signpost and will not be able to proceed on the road as long as they are attached to the signpost.

A kundalini awakened American engineer named Gary, in one of his private posts to me, described one of the greatest dangers of mistaking the signpost for the destination:

"Hudson's mind is not open to new ideas at this point, and he will stay like that for some time. Some of his associates can even be described as quite hostile towards my article, like the ORMEs-consumer interviewed on the moderated forum.  Kundalini amplifies arrogance, just like everything else, and I find I still have problems with it myself, despite 7 years of steady work on it.  One day, they will see it truly though."

This "arrogance" is something that might reasonably be seen as a correlate of the development of psychic "powers" in advance of an expansion of one's heart in love. I see love as the connecting factor in All That Is. It is the universal quantum coherent glue, which binds us all together.

I am sure that each of us can think of someone who has attained kundalini awakening or psychic powers yet her or his behavior remains aggressive and disrespectful. Both psychic abilities and kundalini awakening can be seen by the individual who achieves them as validation of their personal power to attract what they want. Their ego is fed by these things but their love suffers.

Despite his awareness of the problems associated with arrogance and kundalini awakening Gary wrote me the following in a note just before he died on July 4, 1998:

"I have nearly completed my preparations, to make a personal physical transformation. Nothing quite like this has ever been done before, throughout the history of all past ages of man upon this planet, thus success is by no means assured. But, these are times without precedent, and when much is at stake, the risks and costs are correspondingly high.

However, if like Jacob, I prevail with God, there will be a sign in the sky, beginning during that night separating July 3rd and 4th. The heavens shall then become red, like a refiner's fire, and you may safely watch this with everyone else.

If this takes place, it will be explained as the Earth unexpectedly encountering and passing through a cloud of energetically ionized krypton gas; such is to be acknowledged, but is only a small, ancillary physical-level effect, and hardly the First Cause. I will meet with you thereafter."

Another kundalini awakened colleague who is both a scientist and a mystic wrote the following after having some kundalini experiences triggered by m-state materials:

"The contacts that I have been getting from Gary have only intensified over the last few days, as I shared with you today.  I feel there is a strong message here for all ORMUS seekers.

Far from everyone's expectations, the ORMUS material may end up addicting if used carelessly and more "binding" rather than "liberating". It does not, in fact, produce any "release" from the cycle of birth-and-death.  It only lifts what is normally dense - our embodiment, our mental and habitual tendencies - up to a notch, to what is less dense, or more subtle.

The subtle qualities, as for example a kundalini arousal, a samadhi, or even a psychic faculty, are often aspired by everyone as indicative of "attainment".  This could not be farther from truth.  The Truth embodies everything, the subtle, the dense, and even nothing whatsoever.  What is more dense - our reality - is not, in fact, one iota farther away from Truth, nor is the subtle any closer.

"Going into the light" means going into another realm of phenomena, however subtle it may be.  In this regard it is still a realm of illusion. It has not, in fact, transcended birth-and-decay.

Even the complete destruction of ego, as Gary was often fond of saying, does not mean complete liberation.  For, in the end, all of us still hold to a dharma, a truth, something to be expounded, a view.  True liberation, the transcendence of it all, comes only when even the subtle views that we have of enlightenment, of each other, of a Truth however Universal it may seem, e.g., all this garbage that is our reality solidified, can be completely relinquished.

By grasping so firmly onto fine points that discriminate this hypothetical versus some other hypothetical, one clearly demonstrates that in the end there is still a view, something that needs to be explained, some theory to be explored, some truth to be shared, some attachment that needs to be severed.

This is all being written in fact for Gary's benefit and for anyone who thinks that ORMUS can bring short cuts."

Here is a final caution about this from another gentleman who has been described as a "master alchemist":

"Traditionally alchemists spent years preparing their students mentally for the internal application of such substances. Meditation, intellectual apprehension of divine process, a strict moral code and a deep understanding of self and the magickal nature of human relationships were considered necessary pre-requisites. I know from much personal experience that high end metallic preparations open ones mind to a vision of the true nature of reality very quickly. Most aspirants starting out on a spiritual path think this would be great - thinking that this process simply involves 'knowing cool stuff'. But the sad fact is that the Truth hurts, and the average seeker quickly discovers that they don't want the Truth and the "responsibility" that comes with it. Knowing the truth means acting in accordance with it or suffering the dreadful consequences. Until you understand how far away the average persons behaviours are from being productive - in line with the Truth - it is almost impossible to understand what I am suggesting here. In most cases arrogance will force persons forward and will have them taking powerful elixirs that in the last analysis will prove to be poisons for their unprepared systems.

Alchemists did not just die from inhaling mercury fumes, or from lead poisoning. They also died from taking the actual Elixirs and the Stone itself ... because they were not sufficiently prepared."


Ron Talmage wrote this message:

First, I would like to say thank you both for bringing up a point that few wish to listen to here. While I may not totally agree with all that is contained in your posts, I sincerely believe most of it. The differences are irrelevant. What is important is that you have brought up a very valid point ignored by most.

There is work to be done and effort must be put forth if one is to advance. While certain ORME may be like a fast forward button, it does not cure all and bring spiritual evolution with it. It is nothing more than a tool. Spiritual evolution is something that one must work towards, it is not a gift that comes by taking an ORME pill.

Advancement in spiritual evolution happens fastest when one makes it there primary goal. For the past year+ I have made it my primary goal. It was a secondary goal before. Subsequently I have advanced further in the past year than ever before.

There is a price for everything. We have a choice to advance or recede. Everybody has that choice. I left behind an income of $132 per hour and many personal possessions and creature comforts. That is only part of the price I have paid. Would I have made any other choice than the one I made if given the choice all over again? No!

Where you are on the path is irrelevant in most part. What is relevant is that you make the choice to advance and actively put effort into it.

Abilities are not a good reference point to determine one's level of spiritual development.  If anyone thinks that added abilities make it easier, they are wrong.  The abilities are often very distracting and can lead to de-evolution of the spirit.

If anyone thinks that the gift of telepathy is highly desirable, then I ask them what things they think about each day? Are all there thoughts perfect and wonderful? Most people think of stuff that is best unknown to every one except themselves. It takes a very thick skin and a great deal of understanding to handle this gift. Do you really want to know how your neighbor plans on screwing the guy across the street out of whatever it is he wants? Or, what your wife really thinks of you? Or what somebody did at work that day and how they feel about their boss? These are the easy ones, there are many other thoughts that people have that you will find much more difficult to deal with.

The abilities of an empath are much the same, most people do not have wonderful emotional states. When you can feel their emotions, you can become distracted and polluted by their emotional state of mind. I learned how to deal with this about 20 years ago. It only took one answer from one person who had learned how to deal with being an empath to give me the key, but it took many years to find that person. How hard will it be for the average person to learn how to deal with this? One thing is for sure, it is going to be distracting and not very easy.

How do you view the things that happen in your life? Do you see them as road signs and prepare for the sharp curve ahead? Or do you get all upset and misinterpret the signs?

Do you go out of your way to help people? Are you happy with yourself? Are you happy with what life has brought you? What are your motives?

I can honestly say that my first impression of what ORME gold would bring and what it has brought is not totally what I expected.

I hope that people will take the mild forms to get ready for more powerful forms. I also hope that it will put them into a place where they can better understand what the path involves.

Why have I worked so hard on the water machines? Because I believe that it will wake lots of people up and give them the chance to make a conscious decision of which way they want to go on the path, while helping them to become more healthy.

Are you ready to consume ORME gold? Just about everybody thinks they are, and I can say that before I started I thought that same thing and went through many things that showed me that I was not ready. In hind sight.

How many people really listen to what I'm trying to express? Not very many. But if just one does, then all the effort is probably worth it.

How many people do I really think are ready for ORME  gold? Not many, most would cuss the day they consumed it. When one is ready for gold, they will probably find it if they desire it. This is a truth that transcends many levels.


 

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