Early MS Results
Forwarded Wed, 23 Aug 2000 from DC WG by Don
I'm going to post something serious today. You all have some sense of who I am by now, I'm good, bad, sweet, but
at least I'm for real. You can take what I'm about to tell you with a grain of salt, you can delete without
reading, or many other choices, or you can read these words as if they are real, which they are. If you care about
people, you will choose the later, but that is up to you. First of all, if you are a doctor or alternative healer,
this work may enhance your own and vice versa. Second, I'll write below.
I have changed, dramatically changed, some of the techniques I am using in shifting the Assemblage. In many
cases, I have turned full circle and begun working in the exact backwards way that I was earlier working. The
results are powerful and effective, beyond what we would expect to experience in healing involved with more
difficult cases. They are not completely consistent, but the "success" rate is teetering around 80%, above the
normal line of placebo effect. I believe this rate will rise as I continue to add in the effects of manna.
The addition to manna in my own energetic field has loosened many of my set perceptions and allowed for this. I
feel the manna has added fuel to power the shifts through my intent. I have not carried on about the manna, for
most of what I would say would not be believed...and its effects are too subtle to grasp with words. I have no
string of research to tell you that this can be so for all people, but for me and selected clients we would tell
you "just do it." You can purchase it at: www.oceanmanna.com - I do not offer you this within the hope of financial
gain, there is none.
The combination of working with Assemblage shifts combined with manna in my own field and the field of my
clients is awesome. Everyone that works in healing endeavors has that one case that challenges them to their
maximum understandings, and you all know of the Multiple Sclerosis case that is my challenge. This person is also
my greatest guinea pig, for she trusts my work and is also at a point in the disease progression where she has very
little to lose.
I have gained her permission to share these words with you. We began a serious devoted program of Assemblage
shifts to her field about 6 weeks ago, after a long stream of core shamanic healing techniques that we began a
couple years ago. While the earlier sessions seemed to buy us time, the work with the Assemblage and now the
combination with the manna have turned the path of the disease. We pray that this turn continues. She is not on any
medication from western medicine that would cloud these results, nor is she involved in other healing
modalities.
A month ago she was unable to walk without the assistance of a walker, she could not climb stairs and very
rapidly was skyrocketing downward. She was losing hope and spending more and more hours of the day in bed. I was in
fear of her life, as was she. Everything was shutting down.
We put her on the manna and completed a series of 3 Assemblage shifts close together. We are now back on a
weekly schedule. Yesterday, we went to lunch before our session, an outing she could not complete a month ago.
During lunch, she cheerfully and confidently rose to go to the bathroom..."I have to go potty," she giggled, "that
part isn't healed YET." But, a month ago such an event would have been a depressing nightmare for her. She is
climbing stairs, a thing she could do for only a few hours after earlier shifts. (But that alone showed we were on
the right path.) She is not taking even one nap during the days now, for she is so vital and energized that it is
almost miraculous. She is busy with interests, redesigning her life which she thought was gone forever, exercising
to bring back muscle mass, cannot stop smiling, and is "so excited that I can barely stand it. This feels solid,
real. I have not been this well for almost two years." As an added interest, we took her picture just as she
started on the manna and again yesterday. The difference is shown on the photos, taken so close together, the
re-alignment with life force is very apparent.
She has been in this state all day every day for well over a week. For me, also this change feels solid and
real, as if it will "hold." I will let you know more as time develops, but for those that are struggling with
disease that is moving quickly, I thought it stingy to not post at least this much. I may retract my words
tomorrow, but for today, these words reflect my experience. No healing modality offers guaranteed results, but if I
were sick and without hope, I would certainly want to know of this.
In the meantime, I am filled with gratitude and hope. May Spirit continue to find its way through the doorway we
have worked to open.
Thanks for listening,
Cheyenne
More on Assemblage points:
http://www.islandnet.com/~millenia/ShamanBlow.html
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 05:17:37 -0700
From: Cheyenne
Subject: hi
Hi, Barry - I was surprised to hear that you contacted Patricia Kurtz as a means of reaching me...most unusual!
How did that happen? Do I know you? Please forgive me for not remembering you name if we have met. Your name rings
a bell, so I am a bit concerned about that!
Patti mentioned you are seeking information about M.S. relative to a friend of mine that is working through it.
I think you wanted to know her treatment. She is currently on vitamins and an elixir I have located which is a
mineral solution I can tell you about. In addition, she is receiving weekly Assemblage Point Adjustments, which are
very effective. I am a shamanic practitioner and do this work with her.
Because of the results we are seeing, she has suspended other treatments, including the interferon that she was
taking. A month or so ago she was very bad, spending much time in bed and having trouble with the walker. It was
frightening as we have seen nothing but spirally downward for a few years. Between the elixir and the Assemblage
adjustments, the disease seems to have found a corner to turn. She is getting better. She still has good days and
bad days but her vitality is remarkable, she spends almost no extra time in bed safe short rests. Her good times
are more frequent and last longer. Because I can see her progress in my mind's eye, I have sheets of goose bumps
running all over me as I write these words to you.
As I have said, I am a shamanic practitioner and have been involved with healing shamanism for 35 years. We all
know there are no guarantees, but it is something to try. Just in case. Please feel free to write, I can give you
more details and can send you information on my work. Working with the Assemblage Point is fascinating...it is very
leading edge energetic work, even through the technique is centuries old.
The Assemblage Point is the energetic set point of our perceptions. Everything we see in life, believe in life,
and manifest in life is involved in the position of it. It is an energetic vortex that runs through the auric field
and the physical body. It can be manipulated. When it is realigned and balanced, the chakra system balances on its
own and that assists associated glands and organs. This greatly assists the restoration of self-healing. Only last
week a piece of medical equipment was created (5 longs yrs of work by a physicist who creates medical equipment)
that registers the subtle energetics of the human auric field. The Assemblage was scientifically proven last Friday
and is about to be released to global newspapers and health related publications. The Assemblage was the most
powerful energetic wave registered in the human field. Remarkable! I also cannot help but notice the timing of your
message...:)
Anyway, let me know what questions you have and I'll try to answer. I am closely related to my friend with M.S.,
in addition to working with her in a healing capacity, and know what comes and goes from her days. We are closely
tracking the addition of the elixir because of the immediate and miraculous results that it gave her. But, I have
not worked with this for very long. I guinea pigged myself on it first, and was so impressed that I felt confident
that she should try it. It was the right thing to do. It is not an mlm product or anything like that, it is
different. But, I cannot say enough that no healing modality known today can promise results or guarantees. I can
only tell you we are doing the best we can, within strong intent.
Cheyenne
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:39:38 -0700
From: Cheyenne
Subject: Re: hi
> Thank you for contacting me.
You are more than welcome. I gave Don permission to share my words, I thought they might find their way to
people who are currently without hope. I still have no clue as to how Patricia got in this, though...?
I have been working with healing shamanism for 35 years. Adjusting an Assemblage is a sacred and powerful act,
not to be taken lightly, as I am sure you know. It requires a developed Intent and many other things. I have looked
for several years for an apprentice, but have not yet found one that is suitable. I am used to the medical
community overlooking possibility, but ground is being gained. Yes, the fear of law suits courses my blood, but
what am I to do? My marketing person also is an attorney, but I feel I am in Spirit's hands and that is my way.
Don mentioned a seminar up-coming in Denver. I am not interested in making the substance, but might be
interested in attending if information can be gained. I really do not even have the time to study it but am
impressed, highly impressed, with what I currently am seeing, so a base line understanding is most likely in order.
Perhaps the workshop will deliver that?
Cheyenne
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:52:54 -0700
From: Cheyenne
Subject: P.S.
Barry, after I sent the last message I felt my words relative to working with the Assemblage point may have
sounded short. It is my schedule rather than my caring which created the shortness!
In any case, to work with the Assemblage requires the shamanic view to have been developed. It is needed to see
and feel it to work with it properly. It is very tricky and no two shifts seem to be alike. I feel that many people
involved in helping sick people should have the techniques of moving an Assemblage at their disposal, the effects
on the chakras are wonderful. I have thought that I would like to teach others, but have been unable to figure out
how to get them to see what they are doing!! But, I may well give it a shot anyway...just gotta' find the
time.
Thanks,
Cheyenne
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:33:34 -0700
From: Cheyenne
Subject: Re: P.S.
Barry, thanks so much for your words. I feel so much better!! Because you had written I finally took a few
minutes to read through a scant amount of the information on manna and am beginning to get a tad more sense of what
it is...maybe I can do better than "mineral elixir!" Ha!
Anyway, the effect of it in my own system continues to really impress me, I had another little occurrence with
it today which I, again, consider remarkable. I'm going to try to find a minute to write of this and will encourage
Don to post it at the list you have mentioned...hopefully you guys will also enjoy the new message...?
The way this is going so far, there will be many others to share! How exciting!! My friend with MS continues to
be better each day. I wish to high heaven you could have seen her the day she started on the manna, only short
periods out of bed. After a week (more now) she is down to 1 or 2 - 15 minute naps daily. It is unbelievable!! I am
terrified at this point that someone will "get to her" and start talking about placebo effects....or
whatever...that was the source of my earlier concern.
Thanks for helping me get that out of my mind...I always think that "hidden places make spaces" between
folks...so I am a blurter outer!
I get some nice remissions with my work. Viral load drops in HIV/AIDS, good luck with Hep C, some cancers,
excellent work with depression, fatigue syndrome, and awesome luck with Fibromyalgia, etc. I keep good records, the
understandings of the Assemblage shifting work, I believe, will effect the course of healing in the future. They
are very powerful. The addition of the manna - or the name you use - is a gift from God, as near as I can tell so
far. But, it is early. Nonetheless, thank you so much for your work and commitment to a thing that could help us
all. From my own path, I realize that is not always easy.
I used to make high six figures with an American corporation and led a life of power, money, and materialism.
While all that grew, I was always passionately committed to the path of shamanism and Toltecquity (do you know what
Toltec, in terms of don Juan means?) and upon a time my inner guidance had me walk away from my former life to do
the work I do today. It was a horrible path...but I am coming out the other end, and the work is coming
through.
I am impressed with knowing you have taken these substances for four years. I hope you have time to tell me just
a little bit about the effects on your own body after ingesting them for this length of time.
I also hope you will forgive me for being a bit harsh...if you get to know me, you will find that is not my
way.
I took pictures of the MS patient the day we started her on the manna and another picture a week later. I would
be very pleased to send them to you - you can see a very marked improvement in that short time...it shows in her
eyes, and our eyes don't lie, heh? I am also in the pictures so you can see who you are talking to! (I'm glad you
tracked me down!)
Thanks for everything, Barry!
Cheyenne
>
> At 05:08 AM 8/25/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >Barry, I got a note from Patti Kurtz letting me know that you had
> >actually called her on the telephone. You then mentioned that you had a
> >friend with Multiple Sclerosis as a means of locating me, which does not
> >appear to be true. Yet, your motivation was within a concern that it was
> >my words and actions which could be construed as less than impeccable. I
> >would appreciate it, as would Patti, if you would let me know what
> >action led you to Patti. It is a matter of our peace of mind.
> >
> >My first sense of you, as is Patti's, is that you are a nice person with
> >good intent. I sense that we are at the doorway of a budding
> >communication that could help people and would request that you first
> >clear this matter from our minds.
>
> I mentioned your note on multiple sclerosis but I did not suggest that I was
> requesting info for someone that I know with that problem. Perhaps Patti
> misunderstood something I said about your note.
>
> I did an AltaVista search on your name and came up with Patti's web site and
> one other. This is the action that lead me to Patti. My motive was, and is to
> help people who are working with the ORMUS materials to connect with one
> another. There is a great synergy and serendipity which happens when people
> make these connections.
>
> --
>
> With kindest regards,
>
> Barry Carter
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:43:45 -0700
From: Cheyenne
Subject: Re: P.S.
Barry Carter wrote:
>
> Dear Cheyenne,
>
> At 07:52 AM 8/29/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >> Your business skills might be helpful some day as the ORMUS materials get
> >> popularized.
> >
> >I believe this is the case.
>
> In an earlier note you wrote about training people to do the Assemblage point
> adjustments. Is this something that might be taught to a large number of people
> like Reike?
I have thought of this but smaller groups or singles would be more powerful. It is a matter of INTENT - 100%. I
don't know what all a poor shift could bring...the only safety is the purity and Intent of the person who is
shifting. It’s the whole deal! I am developing "maps" - each disorder has a certain position of the Assemblage. For
instance, since we are speak M.S. the Assemblage position is low and right. Anger is high and right - when anger
states drop, they land in MS so you can see the associations...very fascinating!
The land of fantasy is high and left - no wonder don Juan shifted Carlos to the left for his travel. The same
position of the Assemblage also is found with schizophrenia. The Assemblage is a mass of tracers, shadows,
dualities, etc. To diagnosis it requires great intent and communication with something that seems to help. Anyway,
I'm late and will write you later.
This is all very fascinating, Barry!! By the way, the Assemblage is not a Point. It is an emanation that
trajects through the entire body and auric field - didn't know if you realize that, don Juan was somewhat illusive
about that...perhaps he left that for us to discover through the exercises and walking the path.
My MS friend is amazed today again - just talked to her - she is doing so well. I try to separate friends and
clients when I can - but this person is both...a VERY dear friend and advisor as well as a client...so, it is that
one case that always comes to mind for me.
Shifting the Assemblage is very powerful...I do not know that Reiki actually heals but may help the client relax
and reach into self-healing states. The Assemblage seems to be the powerhouse for the chakras - when it is aligned,
they balance on their own and self-healing restores. That is what I see. If the shift is done "right" yet, enough
to do that, I look to my own intent and nothing else.
But, I would love to teach about it. This is my life's work and I am having to walk a fine line between giving
what I can and maintaining my own energetics where I can properly serve.
I am thinking of forming seminars for a charge and teaching. I think the Assemblage work needs to be in the bag
of tricks of healers, whether they be western medicine folks or alternative people. It is very cool!
Later, gator!
Cheyenne
ps: Glad you were able to see the difference on my client...told ya'!! This was her VERY first progress in two
years. I cannot attribute it to anything other than manna/Assemblage. They are ALL she is doing to heal.
Soon,
Cheyenne
>
> >Thanks for sharing the results from your experience with the m-state
> >materials. I appreciate your time and they sound great!
> >
> >> Would you be interested in joining the Denver area ORMUS email list?
> >
> >Yes, I am interested. How do I do this?
>
> I have signed you on. The email traffic is quite light since the Denver group
> as not reached critical mass yet.
>
> >They do
> >> get information that is not posted to the larger lists. Also, would you be
> >> interested in joining the WhiteGold list?
> >
> >What is that?
>
> This is an open international list on the ORMUS materials with about 230
> people.
>
> >ps: I will send the pics. I am on left, MS patient in middle,
> >hynotherapist I am developing things with on the right. First pic taken
> >day one on manna for the client in the middle (MS) - second pic one week
> >after being on manna. The difference in vitality and look in the eyes
> >was more pronouced in person.
>
> The pictures look great. The difference in vitality between the first and
> second picture is stunning.
>
> The folks at Mountain Manna are also working with someone who has MS. Their
> results have been similar.
>
> --
>
> With kindest regards,
>
> Barry Carter
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 06:00:19 -0700
From: Cheyenne
> I was not as aware as I should have been. There is correspondence with the
> acupuncture point interactions of Chinese medicine and the Marma point
> interactions of Hindu medicine. I like the idea of using a dynamic term to
> refer to these interactions rather than the static "point" term.
Yes, I feel a weak spot for me is that I have no formal understanding of these meridians. I see the interaction.
Part of me wants to consume the information, even though my time is just about completely used at this point! But,
another part of me, within the coaching of my awesome teachers, is wary. The work I do requires that I do not know
so that I can know. That sounds ludicrous but it is involved with opening intuition and the parts of me that do, in
fact, know and see full well everything that I need to complete my work.
No two Assemblage shifts are ever the same, not even repeated ones on the same person only days apart. The
Assemblage is a mass of tracers, polarities and shadows. There is no way I have found that understandings of it can
be structured, they must be seen. It is awesome! Powerful! I will say again that it is a matter of focus and
Intent, but they are never the same. The Intent is never the same, it must remain fluid and change in the moment.
But, I am also learning some things about this. I have a client who is seated well into very intense anger. His
Assemblage is very fixed and I have had trouble budging it. Last session, I realized that I must match his anger
with my Intent and send the blow to the Assemblage with the power of extreme anger delivered through my own Intent.
It worked! By the next day he was saying that he had resumed projects that he put down years ago, and that he had
not felt "normal" in years and years. Since he is 100% skeptical (like me) such results from him were a thing I
never thought he would admit! So, this was good. The next part is whether or not he can "hold" the shift. The
Assemblage is well trained to the old position and shifts back, drifts back slowly. Not always, but often. So,
repeated sessions are needed. He will commit or not.
I keep thinking I will reach a point where I "know" and can put format to the work. But, I learn so much
on each and every shift that I work with, that it just seems to expand rather than settle in. The greatest trap I
have found in working with the Assemblage is to not settle into routine, something the ego wants to do. It is must
more powerful to enter Intent newly each time, for each is so different and demands what is present only in each
current moment. The moments in each session also must be stayed with. When the Assemblage is "activated" by the
impending shift, it starts traveling and popping about. In serious disease it is often quite fixated. But, in terms
of reaching optimal well being, it is often fluid. In addition, the more sessions applied to a fixated "rudder" the
more fluid it becomes...gack! Anyway, don't know if you get my drift...my frustrations being poured upon you, I
guess. But, the work is good, strong, and powerful. It is also shooting in the dark from time to time. It is
remembering to not act until I can sense what I am working with...sometimes that is one session, sometimes more.
Sometimes that is one hour, sometimes five minutes, sometimes more. It is orchestrated by untapped parts of myself
that I move into communication with...there is nothing mysterious about it, really...it seems rather clinical in
many situations. But, there is more. There are lots of goose bumps and tears...for the wonder of the Assemblage
discovery, the feel of it, the look of it are just magical. Its cool!
I feel the design of myself to be involved in "bridging." My first inclination working with the Assemblage is to
scientificize it and clinicalize it and try to create a bridge that the western medical model can access. Half of
me wants to go that way. The other half feels the work will be diminished and lost within that orientation. So, I
go back and forth. Right now, there is little time to worry about it anyway. I have to trust that those that need
to find the work will do so and just keep myself speaking as humbly and honestly as I can. I work in the dark, I
try to release what I think I know and wait to see what comes. I can only go on results and sometimes those are
quite subtle.
I feel like, "now I'm going to charge you for moving something that you cannot see or know is in your body and
your energetic field, which you also cannot see. Just trust me, I see what most people don't. Just pay the money
and keep coming, it may take a few sessions, but it will help you." If someone said that to me, I would run for the
hills! Ha! But yet, they do feel the results if they stick with it, it is just not the easiest thing I have ever
tried to do and it takes ego detachment on my part. I must remain willing to be enrolled as a bumbling idiot. My
ego hates that, but I have done a great deal of Heart orientation work at the hands of my wonderful teachers, so
that gets me by...usually.
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