In 1996 I introduced Jim to a gentleman named Dan. Dan was 76 years old at the time and had been mining
off and on since he was twenty years old.
In 1998 Jim, Dan and I formed an informal partnership to make trap water ORMUS into metal. Based on information
that I provided to Jim from the work of David Hudson and the Essene, Jim developed a very unique and innovative
process to convert the ORMUS in magnetic trap water into metal. The final step in this process was to bubble the
chemically treated ORMUS water vapor through molten lead. If you do this with ordinary water vapor the molten lead
will literally explode out of the pan on contact with the water vapor. Fortunately this did not happen with the
ORMUS water vapor.
After about a half hour of bubbling this vapor through the lead the lead would harden. In other words, its melting
point became higher than the heating element could heat it. When you alloy lead with other metals you generally
raise the melting point of the lead alloy. (You can listen to Dan describing this process at:
We got most of the lead from local tire stores where it is crimped onto the wheel to balance the tires. A small
amount of the lead may have come from fishing weights. You can see a picture of fishing weights and wheel balancing
lead weights at:
The wheel weights are on the right in the picture.
These wheel weights also contain about 5% antimony. According to a US Government document titled "Stocks and Flows
of Lead-Based Wheel Weights in the United States": "Virtually all wheel-weight lead, actually an alloy containing
approximately 5 percent antimony, is recovered from recycled automobile batteries."
The antimony is used to harden the lead so it is less malleable and less breakable.
The melting point of lead is 621 degrees Fahrenheit (327 degrees Celsius). The melting point of antimony is 1167
degrees Fahrenheit (630 degrees Celsius). Gold and all of the platinum group metals have higher melting points than
lead and antimony.
The melting temperature of the lead alloy rises when it is alloyed with other metals with a higher melting point.
Gold, which has a melting temperature of 1945 degrees Fahrenheit (1063 degrees Celsius) has the lowest melting
temperature of any of the precious metals except silver which is lighter than lead.
On our first three day run using about ten gallons of trap water (which would have weighed a bit over eighty
pounds) we made seven of these lead alloy plates. The total weight of these seven plates was 114.75 pounds.
You can see both sides of the seventh lead plate at:
This lead plate weighed 22.9 pounds before it was drilled for an assay sample.
We took four of the seven lead "plates" that we made to a assayer in Idaho. These four plates weighed 60.65 pounds.
The assayer said that these lead plates had the crystallization patterns of the platinates and had a specific
gravity that ranged from 2% to 5% more than lead alone. The average was 2.68%. This means that the total weight of
these four plates was 1.6275 pounds more than it would have been if they were lead alone.
This does not mean that only 1.6275 pounds of the total weight was precious metal. The portion of precious metal
would be much greater than that because the 2.68% greater weight is how much more they weighed than the specific
gravity of lead would indicate. The exact percentage of precious metal would vary according to which of the
precious metals were present.
Following is a chart of the specific gravity of lead and the ORMUS elements that have a specific gravity greater
than lead in their metallic form:
Lead 11.34
Palladium 12.00 5.82%
Ruthenium 12.20 7.58%
Rhodium 12.44 9.70%
Gold, 24K Pure 19.32 70.37%
Platinum, Pure 21.45 89.15%
Iridium 22.50 98.41%
Osmium 22.50 98.41%
The third column is how much heavier than lead the respective precious metals are.
If roughly half of the lead alloy plate was palladium this would account for the extra mass but smaller percentages
of the other precious metals would also account for the extra mass.
If half of the total weight of the seven plates was palladium from the trap water the palladium would have weighed
over 50 pounds. I think that it is more likely that iridium and gold were the main precious metals in the mix since
these two elements repel from magnetic fields in the ORMUS state more than the other ORMUS elements. It is
reasonable to presume that ten pounds of the full weight of the seven plates is iridium and/or gold with lesser
portions of the other precious metals. If ten pounds of the precious metals came out of eighty pounds of trap water
this would mean that we were getting about one pound of metal out of each gallon of trap water.
In addition to the first run of seven metal plates Dan and Jim did two more runs. I think the first of these runs
was done with trap water and the second was done with a neutralized acid extract from crushed rock. The second run
was ten plates and the third run was four plates. You can see a picture of these metal plates at:
There is another characteristic of lead that distinguishes it from other metals. When lead was more commonly used
people would often refer to a dull sound as a leaden sound.
I have recorded a video that illustrates the difference between the sound of lead and the sound of the
lead/precious metal alloy in one of the plates that we made. You can view this video at:
In the video, the piece of metal on the right was made by bubbling the vapor of partially converted trap water
through molten lead from wheel weights.
The piece of metal in the center is an ordinary lead wheel weight.
The piece of metal on the left was made by bubbling the vapor of partially converted rock source ORMUS liquid
through molten lead from wheel weights.
Notice the sound as I strike each of these pieces.
The metal on the left has a dull leaden sound much like the sound of the wheel weight in the center.
The piece of metal on the right has a much more musical sound like the sound of metals other than lead.
There are many ways to identify the different elements. Light spectroscopy has only been used for this purpose
since the early 19th century. Before the advent of spectroscopy most of the precious metal elements were isolated
chemically and identified by their physical properties and their chemical reactions.
Though we did not get spectroscopic identification of the precious metals in the plates that Jim made, there are
other ways to tell that they are present. I have discussed three of these ways in this article.
First, the treated trap water vapor significantly raised the melting point of the lead.
Second, the resulting metal plates have a specific gravity 2% to 5% higher than one would get with lead alone.
Third, the trap water alloy plates ring when struck unlike the leaden sound you get when striking lead alone.
Since these metal plates were made eight years ago enough time has surely passed for the full conversion from ORMUS
to metal. I have three of these plates in my possession right now and I will look into getting some assays on them
as soon as I figure out how to go about it.
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:20:53 -0800
Subject: [ORMUS_SWG] Specific Gravity
I just finished today's project. I measured the specific gravity of the lead alloy plate that had Jim's trap ORMUS
bubbled through it.
If we assume that the original lead-antimony wheel weights were composed of 95% lead and 5% antimony as the USGS
document at:
says, the specific gravity of this lead-antimony mix would be about 11.11. This is a bit less than the specific
gravity (SG) of lead because antimony (SG 6.68) has a specific gravity that is considerably less than lead (SG
11.34).
I measured the specific gravity of the lead alloy plate using the setup illustrated at:
This setup includes a plastic bucket with a modified spout from a sun tea bottle placed in the side in order to get
an accurate overflow measurement. I filled the plastic bucket with water till it was well above the level of the
overflow spout and let it the water stabilize. Then I allowed the water to drain down to the level of the overflow
spout.
I put the plastic bottle under the overflow spout and held my finger over the end of the overflow spout as I
carefully placed the lead alloy plate into the water in the bucket without getting my hand in the water. When the
water had stabilized again I took my finger away from the overflow spout and allowed the excess water to drain out
of the bucket into the plastic bottle.
I then weighed the water in the plastic bottle on Ohaus balance scale. The water weighed 836.9 grams.
Next I weighed the metal plate on a commercial scale at our local food coop. This plate weighed 21.63 pounds or
9811.2 grams.
I divided the weight of the metal plate by the weight of the water to get a specific gravity for the plate at
11.72. This specific gravity is 1.055 times the 11.11 specific gravity of the lead-antimony alloy of the original
wheel weights.
This means that this lead alloy plate is 5.5% heavier than a lead-antimony plate would be. It is also heavier than
the original specific gravity measurement in 1998 indicated. The 1998 measurement indicated an increased weight of
2.5%.
Part of this difference may be due to the inclusion of 5% antimony into the equation. If we take this out of the
equation, the specific gravity would have been 1.046 times the specific gravity of lead alone.
(The main possible source of error in my measurements would be the different scales I used to weigh the water and
the lead alloy plate. I will weigh the water again on the commercial scale at the food coop tomorrow.)
Next I constructed a table to figure out how the 5.5% weight gain might have happened, assuming that different
metals were added to the molten lead-antimony alloy by bubbling trap ORMUS through it.
I assumed that ten quarts of trap ORMUS were used and that this gave us the original metal plate inventory of seven
plates weighing a total of 114.75 pounds. I also assumed that average increase in weight of these plates is
equivalent to the 5.5% increase in weight of the one plate I measured today. (The average weight increase may have
been as little as 2.5% if we use the 1998 numbers.)
Using my table I figured out the approximate percentage of the following elements that would give a 5.5% increase
in the total weight of all the plates:
Palladium 69.0%
Ruthenium 56.0%
Rhodium 46.0%
Gold, 24K Pure 7.5%
Platinum, Pure 6.0%
Iridium 5.4%
Osmium 5.4%
If the 114.75 pounds of the plates is 69% palladium then the palladium in them would weigh a bit over 79 pounds. If
the 114.75 pounds of the plates is 5.4% iridium then the iridium in them would weigh a bit over 6 pounds.
Now we need to remember that this extra weight came from ten quarts of trap ORMUS. Ten quarts of water weighs 20.85
pounds. The trap ORMUS probably weighs about the same as water if it is consistent with other trap ORMUS I have
weighed. I would guess that it weights slightly less at first and slightly more when some time has passed.
I doubt that the extra weight of the plates came from 79 pounds of palladium since this would require a 379.75%
increase in the weight of the water. It seems more likely that the extra weight came from iridium and gold. If it
came from iridium alone this would only require that 29.72% of the weight of ten quarts of trap water ended up as
iridium metal in the plates.
This would be equivalent to 2.48 pounds per gallon of trap ORMUS. I think we may need to apply Hudson's 5/9 rule to
get this weight down to a more reasonable number. 5/9 of 2.49 pounds would be a little less than 1.38 pounds of
ORMUS iridium in each gallon of the trap water.
In the past Daniel has speculated that the increase in weight of the lead alloy plates may be due to "speiss" which
is not water soluble and which is generally composed of some mix of the following elements which mask the precious
metals:
Sulfur 2.07
Arsenic 5.727
Iron 7.87
Copper 8.94
Mercury 13.55
To the right of these elements that are associated with speiss are their specific gravities.
In light of all of this additional information I will restate the reasons why I doubt that speiss is a factor in
the trap ORMUS that Jim converted to metal.
1. Speiss is not water soluble. This means that a filter which is so fine as to not allow water to pass would
surely filter out speiss particles.
2. The oil absorbing fabric that Jim used will not eventually absorb water. Here is a blurb from a company that
sells this fabric:
"Dynasorb oil sorbents are the best alternative to other costly brands when it time to clean up or remove oil on
land or water, convenient and cost effective, our sorbents absorb up to 20 times their own weight in petroleum
products. Additionally, Dynasorb Oil Sorbents are equally effective in absorbing petroleum based solvents and
paints, vegetable oils and other non-water soluble chemicals. Dynasorb OIl SOrbents will not absorb water, will
float indefinitely"
3. The passage of speiss, which is a molecule that incorporates several elements that are less than half the weight
of metallic iridium, into the liquid, that was vaporized and bubbled through the molten lead-antimony mix, would
make the total weight of lighter than gold elements much higher in the mix. Any metallic speiss compound with a
combined specific gravity less than 14.5 would mean that the total weight of the liquid that was vaporized and
bubbled through the lead would have had to have been pure speiss without any water component at all.
In fact, the weight gain of the lead-antimony alloy from any water mix can only be rationalized if we assume that
this weight gain was from elements that are heavier than gold as metal but that were present in the water in the
ORMUS form at the 5/9 weight that Hudson suggested for S-ORMEs.
4. The total amount of hydrogen in a given volume of water is not sufficient to lift that volume of water. The
weight of hydrogen in water is only 11% of the weight of that water.
David Hudson claimed in his lectures that S-ORME iridium and S-ORME gold were the best levitators. I predict that
we will find that the magnetic traps concentrate these two elements more than the other ORMUS elements when I get
the assay results on the metal plate.
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:27:06 -0700
Subject: Re: [ORMUS_SWG] Specific Gravity
Palladium is 8.03% heavier than the lead/antimony mix of the wheel weights for a given volume of metal. The metal
plate that I used to displace water was only 5.54% heavier than a lead/antimony mix plate that would displace the
same volume of water. So, if I divide 5.54% by 8.03% this would be the percentage of the total that would have to
be palladium to account for a 5.54% increase in weight. Thus the percentage of palladium, if the total increase in
specific gravity was due to palladium, would be 68.99%.
Jim said that metal from one of the plates was assayed and if you subtracted the lead and antimony the remainder
was 92% platinum. So we really should use the specific gravity increase for platinum rather than palladium in our
equations. Platinum would be 5.04% of the total weight of the plate if all of the additional metal was platinum.
This 5.04% platinum would increase the total weight of the plate by 8.03%.
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