From: Barry Carter Subject: ORMUS AND LAURENCE GARDNER CONNECTION
Dear Manuela,
The web pages you have quoted show such a stunning lack of scientific understanding
about the subjects that they address that it is difficult to know where to begin. Nevertheless, I am going to just
start with something.
First, the web sites you cite use the terms "white powder gold" and "monoatomic gold"
regularly and interchangeably. They suggest that white powder gold is a plot by some powerful global or
interstellar organization to implement mind control or damage our ability to ascend. If this were the case, I would
think that there would be some well funded source that is producing and distributing white powder gold. This is not
true. I don't believe that you can purchase or obtain pure white powder gold from anyone right now. If you go
to:
http://whitepowdergold.com/
you will see that the product sold there is not a white powder. It is an off-white
precipitate in liquid. When dried, as you can see in the microscopic picture on that page, it is certainly not
white. Similar precipitates in water can be purchased from other ORMUS producers but, as far as I know, none of
them provide the pure white dry powder that David Hudson talked about. One possible exception might be the white
powder gold product made by Ascension Alchemy as described at:
http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html
I hear that this product is very difficult to get hold of. The people who make it
require that you purchase and use other products before "graduating" to their white powder gold product and people
have generally been saying that it is very difficult for new people to even get started on any of the products.
Does this sound to you like the way an interstellar/global conspiracy might go about getting a product out to the
masses?
Second, the use of the term "monoatomic" is probably erroneous. David Hudson provided
no evidence that would prove that any of the ORMUS elements are monoatomic. They could also be conjoined diatoms of
gold or a fused atom of gold and hydrogen. Regardless of whether they are monatoms, diatoms or subatomic as some
have suggested, almost everyone that has worked with them agrees that they do not form chemical bonds. This means
that chemically bonding them to strands of DNA as suggested by Anna Hayes and others would be impossible. According
to David Hudson's theory about the nature of the ORMUS elements they no longer have available valence electrons to
form compounds with DNA or any other atom or molecule.
When so called, "channelled information" is so much in disagreement with what is
known to science you give more weight to the possibility that the "channelled information" is erroneous and
misleading rather than that the scientific information is in error.
Third, a colleague has trapped ORME silver, copper and gold out of the air and
converted it into metal. He has also trapped all of the ORME elements out of water and converted them into metal.
According to the theories about the nature of these materials, all of these substances exist in a single unit
state, either as monatoms, conjoined diatoms or transmuted monatoms. None of these states, according to the most
popular theories, have available valence electrons for chemical bonding. Despite this, they seem to be present in
relatively high amounts in the air we breathe and the water we drink. The only way to avoid ingesting these potent
forms of these elements would be to quit drinking water and to quit breathing air. Perhaps this is what Anna Hayes
is suggesting. I suspect that if you quit ingesting ORME gold by not breathing air and not drinking water you will
ascend within a very short time.
I have written more on this subject in the past which I will quote now:
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 01:37:38 -0800 From: WhiteGold-List Subject: WhiteGold: Conflicting info
From: Barry Carter Subject: Conflicting info
Dear Friends,
I have answered this question a lot lately. Here is my standard answer for those of
you who have not seen it yet.
Most great teachers throughout history have taught one principle: you create your own
reality. This principle and its ramifications would absolutely preclude anyone else from controlling
you.
There are many people who do not understand this principle and its ramifications.
They fear that they remain safe and secure only as long as they can control others. In order to control others,
they must first convince as many of these others as possible that their lives and circumstances can be controlled
by outside forces.
These fearful people often believe that their power and control over their
circumstances must be forcefully organized by setting up control structures. They then try to use these structures
to enforce the fiction that they control others in order to make their own life acceptable.
All structures are designed to resist change, whether the structure is a building, a
government, a belief, a church or a corporation. (We generally consider things that do not change to be dead
things.)
I see the greatest promise of ORMUS to be that it helps to reinforce our connection
to life, the universe and everything. This is a great threat to most structures and the people who serve them. As
the people who serve these structures become aware of ORMUS and what it does, I would expect them to contrive ways
to move people into fear concerning it. Structures, and the people who serve them, most often use fear to try to
control others.
Beliefs are structures too. If each of us creates our own reality, the false belief
that someone else can control anyone's mind is the most outrageous false belief that I can think of.
One of the greatest threats to the ORMUS movement is the use of fear to turn people
away from it. I can see why many structures and the people who serve them might be threatened by ORMUS. ORMUS is an
agent of change for many of these structures which were built to resist change. ORMUS improves our individual
connection to life, the universe and everything so we no longer feel dependent on a church structure to serve as an
intermediary. ORMUS improves our ability to feed ourselves so we can become less dependent on corporate agriculture
structures to provide food. ORMUS helps us to manifest what we want in our lives in a way that might threaten
government structures that consider this to be their role. ORMUS helps us to be healthy and this might threaten
those structures that are dependent on disease for support.
People have been using variations of the ORMUS scare tactics described at:
for quite a while. I first saw this in an article by Anna Hayes on the Internet in
2000. I do not know if these people are serving larger structures or their own small structures. I do know that
their claims are totally unsupported by any scientific evidence. Back in 2000 I responded to the original Anna
Hayes article. Though some of the facts in my response have changed since then, I think it is still informative to
see my whole response to the original Anna Hayes article:
It looks like someone has misinformed you about the nature of the so-called white
powder gold in a number of ways:
1. No white powder gold is available commercially from any source except as it occurs
naturally in foods.
2. David Hudson, who described the white powder of gold, never made much of it or
intended to distribute it. In his original ore only about 1% was gold in the m-state.
3. The gold that he described as monatomic probably is diatomic. For this reason I
shall refer to it as m-state gold or just m-gold. (The "m" can mean microcluster or manna as well as
monatomic.)
4. Several m-state products are available. All of them have a very small percentage
of m-state gold. Most of the m-state in nature is probably m-rhodium and m-iridium.
5. Every living plant and animal has a relatively high level of the m-state elements
in it. It looks like it is essential to life.
6. Plants grown in m-state soil are more drought resistant, are less likely to be
attacked by insects and disease and seem to be more nutritious.
7. The m-state elements in plants probably are necessary for the capillary action
which "pumps" water to the extremities of the plant.
8. Though modern agricultural and food processing methods do their best to eliminate
the m-state elements from our food it is doubtful that any living thing could live without them.
9. The m-state elements are present in all natural water and probably help give water
its familiar properties.
10. They also naturally occur in the air and can be "trapped" out of the air using
appropriate technology.
11. These elements are particularly abundant in ocean water yet they don't seem to
harm plants and animals which live in the ocean.
12. Modern science does seem to know something about the "DNA templates". See a paper
on the DNA phantom effect by Dr. Vladimir Poponin. There is a summary of Dr. Poponin's paper at:
"Dr. Vladimir Poponin and his Russian colleagues serendipitously discovered the DNA
phantom effect during experiments observing DNA molecules with a laser photon correlation spectrometer. To their
surprise, they found characteristic and reproducible patterns of photon scattering both while DNA molecules
remained in the path of the laser beam and after the DNA molecules were removed from the laser pathway. They were
able to detect the photon patterns (which they called the DNA phantom effect) for as long as several months after
removal of the physical DNA from the system. They realized they had demonstrated a link - or coupling - between the
electromagnetic energy of the DNA molecule and the zero energy vacuum substructure predicted by quantum
physics."
13. The great physicist David Bohm predicted this "substructure" and called it the
"implicate order". Based on Bohm's work, a biologist named Rupert Sheldrake postulated that there was a
non-physical template for living things. Sheldrake called this template the "morphogenic field".
14. At certain "energy" levels some of the m-state elements can disappear, levitate,
and "tunnel" through solid objects. The implication is that they have one foot in the physical and one foot in the
non-physical realm.
15. I know people who first took concentrated m-state materials into their body over
a decade ago. There is no evidence that these materials are habituating, that is, they require higher and higher
doses, or that they are addictive. On the contrary, people who have taken the m-state materials for a long time
tend to reduce their intake as their physical ailments subside. I have been ingesting these elements for over four
years now and I have been reducing my dose fairly consistently for the last year or so. It seems that my body is
producing its own m-state.
16. Since the m-state elements are not readily identifiable in natural sources, they
are often mistaken for other elements. Silica is one of those other elements that the m-state gets mistaken for.
Natural silica would be very likely to have significant amounts of m-state in it.
17. Any planet composed of rock would have significant amounts of naturally occurring
m-state in the air. It looks like these elements are something like a million times more common in the earth than
their metallic counterparts.
18. It is my understanding that DNA has two strands with two end points. From which
of these end points does the "first 3 Strands of the DNA Template" originate.
19. None of your statements is referenced and footnoted to any other document
scientific or psychic. It is difficult to figure out how these inaccurate conclusions were arrived at without some
reference to source. __________________________
I agree with your conclusion that the white powder gold is not particularly
beneficial. I ate it for about a month and totally did not like the way I felt. It made me feel lethargic and
spacey. Other colleagues have reported similar effects. I try to discourage people from focusing on the m-state
gold as being beneficial in any way.
The m-rhodium, m-iridium and m-platinum, on the other hand, have had a generally
beneficial effect on my health and well being. I have not noticed any psychic effects except that I do seem to be
better able to be in the right place at the right time. _________________________________________________ END OF FORWARDED NOTE
Since 2000 we have learned that ORMUS is in the air, all water, and probably in all
food. I doubt that anyone could avoid it under any circumstances.
If you wish to view some "channelled" information that contradicts the Anna Hayes
information see:
Other "channelled" information that contradicts the Anna Hayes info can be found in
the Ramtha material and in the Matthew material.
The research that Ken Adachi cites on his web site did not involve ORMUS gold. The
nanocluster gold is still metallic gold.
Following is another note I wrote on a related subject in December of
2000:
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 00:06:01 -0700 From: Barry Carter Subject: Re: WhiteGold: Annunaki?
Zacharia Sitchin proposed (in several of his books) that aliens (called Annunaki) were partly responsible for the Sumerian civilization. He claims
that these aliens used humans to mine gold to be used to restore the atmosphere
on the aliens' planet. He also claims that these aliens, who evolved on a
planet with an elliptical orbit which extends from inside the orbit of the Earth
to outside the orbit of Pluto (this would make an oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere, liquid for most of the orbit), were able to exchange genetic material with proto-humans.
David Hudson, in some of his lectures, suggested that the gold the
Annunaki were after might have been for the purpose of converting to m-state and dispersing into the atmosphere. As an illustration of the depth of David Hudson's understanding of astrophysics I have the following quote from his
1995 Dallas lecture:
"For those of you who are interested, did you know that NASA has learned
that you can scrape tissue out of the checks of the astronauts, and put the equivalent of a lie detector instrument on the tissue and that when the astronaut is out there, you know, millions of light years away, that when
he's subjected to stress, that the cells instantaneously experience stress here
on Earth even though they're not in his body.
And they've actually done this and proven it and so, because it takes hours
for the radio transmission to come back, then to sort through, send it back,
what to do, but the very instant he experiences stress they know it, even though
his radio transmission hasn't come. They know that there is a
communication capable instantaneous between these body parts from that person and that person. It isn't broken when it's taken out of his body. They know
that. They're working with radionics. They know about this."
To help put Hudson's knowledge of astrophysics into perspective, light
travels 5,880,000,000,000 miles in a year and the distance to the Earth's moon
(the farthest that an astronaut has ever been from Earth) is only 238,860 miles.
It takes light a little over a second to travel from the moon to the Earth.
Laurence Gardner, in Genesis of the Grail Kings, has fleshed out the
supposed connection between Annunaki gold and the ORMUS gold. Gardner also claims
that the "pendragon" or dragon kings of Europe are descended from the ancient
line of Hebrew alchemical kings. Dan Winter, Anna Hayes, Drunvalo and others
have claimed that these dragon kings were pawns to Drakonian aliens and that
these same aliens are promoting White Powder Gold as a means toward mind control
or to permanently damage the DNA of humans. Here is a passage from an article
on this subject by Anna Hayes:
"I am also told that the ancient Sirian Nibiruian Anunnaki and Nephilim harvested earth for the element of gold because they had found a way to make
a version of WPG that could be ionized into the air of their planet to
create longevity of their biology. What they didn't count on was that it created genetic dependence on the artificially manufactured substance, and if progressively higher concentrations were not imbued into the air, their
bodies sickened and died rapidly. After depleting their gold elemental supply,
they turned to earth to harvest the element for production of the WPG-type substance, to sustain Nibiru's atmosphere. Somewhere along the line they received some kind of genetic repair assistance from some other stellar
race (Hathors, I think), that weaned them of the WPG dependence so they no
longer needed to have the stuff in their planetary atmosphere, but their race
still bears the genetic damage caused by use of the stuff.
The GA warned me about WPG in 1998 (before I ever heard of Mono-atomic),
saying that the Drakonian Kurendara race of Nibiru (Nephilim-Dracos hybrids) were reintroducing the recipes for WPG on earth to help digression of human
culture and malfunction of human DNA. According to GA, they introduced it as a
"quick fix" for spiritual enlightenment, knowing that it would wipe out the
integrity of the first 3 DNA strand templates, so humans would no longer be able to
hold the natural activation of the higher DNA strands and the levels of consciousness that correspond to them. Now, the substance is making it into
the mainstream, with some sci-tech versions being contrived, and nobody really knows (except perhaps the star races and the Kurendara Nibiruan) where the great inspiration to make the stuff really came from. Food for thought
when considering WPG products."
I sent Anna Hayes a note pointing out the errors in this web page but got
no response. The web page is no longer available but can still be seen as a
cached file by doing a Google search on:
I think that Dan Winter does not firmly support this position but I could
be wrong.
Here is an interesting passage on aliens from Love Without End - Jesus Speaks
by Glenda Green:
"You are not alone. As you suspect, there are younger and older brothers elsewhere. Every brotherhood, however, is an entity unto itself with its
own right of familyhood, to come of age together. Looking elsewhere is not the answer at this time. Looking to each other and to God is the answer to
becoming all that you can be. In many ways your science fiction movies have misled
you to believe that consciousness follows technology. Such movies give the
false impression that structured, polarized consciousness can be expanded in
outreach across the universe simply by accelerating technology. Then somehow, as if
by magic, consciousness can be caused to grow. Nothing could be further from
the truth. Technology does not cause an increase in consciousness.
Consciousness causes technology. First a change of consciousness must occur before a
greater technical outreach is possible. Your planet and others of its kind are
like islands in a great ocean with no easy way of bridging the distance.
Mutuality is the law of intergalactic connection. Those civilizations which are equal
or behind yours cannot reach you any more than you can reach them. There is
enough distance between each one to ensure that this will remain true. Those which
can draw near have the consciousness to compress great distances. Aside from possible desperation or degeneration, it is not within their consciousness
to exploit or to conquer mankind.
"I would be misleading you to imply that the galactic community is without
its points of turbulence and misbehavior, for there is always free will.
However, there is a rule that is generally true, and you can rely upon it to give
you comfort. Those who could harm you cannot reach you. Those who can reach
you would not likely harm you. In His great wisdom, The Creator saw fit to
space all life-bearing planets far enough apart to establish this condition. This
is combined with a secondary fact that all truly advanced technologies are
based on principles of synchronicity, holistic patterning, and respect for the dynamics of life. The idea of marauders traveling at the speed of light
and beyond, simply for conquest, is pure fiction. The synchronicity required
for that technology simply could not be derived from a consciousness based on conflict. "Through the one spirit, all beings of love everywhere are
exerting an influence on each other. Sometimes this is recognized and felt directly,
and most often it is simply received as resonance or harmony which one chooses
to accept or ignore." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>End
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