While there are many things labeled as orme, there is only one true orme and there is no commercially available source for it, as far as I know. It should be noted that the salt water stuff is primarily beneficial because of trace minerals. The AuH [gold hydride contained in the salt water stuff turns to orme in the body in about 1 year.  This is a fact that Barry is aware of but hides. The person referred to as the Essene told him this long ago.

Healing Story: http://www.pureganic.com/interview.htm

I WAITED 5 YEARS OR LONGER TO START REGULAR ORME PROGRAM BECAUSE I WANTED TO REMOVE MERCURY FROM MY MOUTH FIRST.

**Aches and pains from muscular strain where I do not exercise often enough and then try to overdo.

I still look much older than I am (I need to finish perfecting my Cu elixir).

When I do not boost my energy level artificially with ORMUS, diet and exercise are the determining factors for energy. Other than a very strong flu-like reaction to a live Tetanus shot and a bout with food poisoning this past summer, I do not get colds or flu. I used to live with these things as a norm and would also get boils. No longer a problem.

Cuts and bruises heal very quickly especially when using an m-state oil. This is also helpful for muscular aches and pains.

In the 20 months that I have been an ORMUS consumer I have used Trap Water the most consistently. I have noticed that when I allowed my normal hair color to grow back that it was not as gray as 2 years ago. I have had one tooth that enamel grew back on, but the tooth did not completely fill in. ORMUS has helped me on more than physical levels, but I'll wait to discuss these benefits on the NEXT survey....

"I believe that from my Involvement with the ORMUS Materials, that I have GREATLY IMPROVED from my prior Condition (i.e.--depression, lethargy, infections, boils, P.T.S.D. (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder), A.D.D. (Attention Deficit Disorder), and other associated Maladies--ALL seemingly/apparently remedied!).

I have also benefited from the Therapeutical Usages of Etheogens (specific compounds will not be mentioned here--if you are truly interested in what I have been personally doing, personal emails will be more than appropriate & appreciated--and will be answered in due time).

Not only has the degeneration ceased, I would have to say that regeneration processes are taking place. Eight years ago my right shoulder seized up. After extensive chiropractic treatment and physical therapy I was left with a limited range of motion and a painful condition. Since using Ormus the shoulder has loosened up considerably and no longer clicks or binds up; nor is it painful. Greatly improved. For years I had arthritic pain in many parts of my body on a daily basis. I had tried numerous types of therapy including acupuncture but nothing helped. Within a few days of starting on Ormus I was pain free. Other improvements that I have noticed are: no more dandruff, no more athlete's foot, no more jock itch, the nose bleeds which I had been having twice weekly disappeared and my attitude and emotional state have improved immensely. Physically I feel 15 years younger and mentally I feel 30 years younger.

Don has absolutely hit the nail on the head. Rather then expecting Ormus to deliver unending peak experiences, we should be profoundly grateful for the every day good health which it can help us enjoy.

There has been another product I have taken for the last 6 months that definitely has resulted in greater improvement in my health more than any Ormus product ever had, and I had been taking great salt lake ormus, and also M-3 sporadically (could not keep it up because of the m-gold content made me REAL spacey).

When more of A's research comes out, I think people will discover that being in top physical health is necessary to be able to utilize the m-elements, the kind like we have heard David Hudson describe from his people in his lectures. The road to health might involve other protocols other than taking an Ormus product. If we don't support the body in many ways while taking Ormus, we are likely to get very sick. I know a lot of ways to improve general health other than downing an Ormus product. The most obvious way to me is by simply eating a diet rich in organic foods, grown in Ormus-rich soil. That is the way to go if we possibly can.

My infectious disease occurrences are: NEVER. Recent [8 months ago] major remission of long term skin melanomas.

Main evidences being loss of several allergies, and almost never feeling sick or poorly. Definitely none of the former aches and pains I had associated with normal advancing age.

You need a category for energy changes. That's a primary benefit of ORMUS! I do not stretch the truth when I say that most days I feel almost superhuman. I am a hiker in the mountains, though I spent my first 40 years as a flat lander [city dweller]. I regularly carry heavy loads that require all out exertion for up to 3 hours between lunch breaks [formerly hypoglycemic]. I can accomplish approx. 3 times the work I could 5 years ago. I haven't felt stronger or had a stronger libido since I was a long distance runner and basketball player in my mid-late teens. The clock hasn't begun running backward yet, but neither has it raced ahead at its former pace.

I am feeling better than when I started taking ORMUS products just over a year ago, but I have not experienced the dramatic health improvements which have been reported by others.

Magnesium (mega doses to bowel tolerance and transdermal) and Prill water have made a BIG difference in my health (fibromyalgia, severe CFS, leaky gut, candida, prolapsed tricuspid valve, hypoglycemia, RA, and food/chemical sensitivities).  I see all these  "diagnosis'" as an identification of my symptoms and a starting point in recovery.

At one point I was diagnosed with lupus, and they wanted to put me on cytoxin (chemo), to slow down my immune system.  I said NONONONO.  The doctor refused to work with me, which was fine with me all I wanted was a diagnosis.

I began to work with diet and a few other things.  A few months later I went to a different doctor and my test came back negative.

The ORMUS has been more of an emotional-spiritual change.

Also note that I took out regular in "regular ormus user" but that is soon going to change since I am going to get CW water trap.  Another interesting point is that I was looking for this kind of thing and didn't even know it existed and I am quite young for this group I am currently 20 years old.

While taking M3, and for 6 months afterwards, I never caught any sort of cold or other problem. This was despite extensive international travel.  After 6 months a small cold that went overnight.

a bone scan last month showed that I "have the bone density of a 19 year old" despite being 48 years old.

I started ormus because I had hot flushes associated with menopause and I was feeling very tired, uncomfortable and worse than "death warmed-up".  This changed within about 1 month of taking M3 to a feeling of abundant energy and I started to get involved in many more activities.  The hot flushes slowly subsided while I was taking M3. For one or two short periods when I stopped taking the M3, the hot flushes returned.  I immediately started to feel run-down. This changed abruptly when I restarted M3 and the flushes went away quickly.  Taking it seems to have the same wellness-enhancing effect as taking personally prescribed Chinese herbal medicine.  In other words, in a week or two, physiological energy and brightness is improved.

Please add any significant comments: After 12 months, a number of people suggested that I was being hard to get along with. I seemed to be emotionally unpredictable.  I think that it was my body telling me to stop taking the M3.  I felt I didn't need it any more and the hot flushes were totally gone.  So 6 months ago I stopped the M3 and my emotional feelings calmed down.  I have had no hot flushes since then and I feel extremely healthy.  Nevertheless, I keep a bottle of M3 near at hand "for emergencies".  My husband comments that Avi's product seems to have a general "tonic" and even a "cell repair", "youth enhancing" effect on me.  This is not just in the face, but bodily.

When I first started taking some Dead Sea and Great Salt Lake precipitate a couple of years ago my health started to get worse and worse.  What role the ormus played in this, if any, isn't clear to me.  Last November I was diagnosed with both AIDS and cancer.  I continued to take ormus products, although it took a while to find the ones that seemed to "fit".  I also used SEVERAL other "alternative" products and healing modalities, as well as allopathic medicine (including chemotherapy and AIDS drugs).  I feel that at this point in our evolution it is appropriate to mix the old and new paradigms and find the TRUTH behind their apparent duality.  This approach has certainly served me well.  Whether using chemical or natural substances and methods I have found it paramount to stay in my own power with my personal healing and this, too, has been crucial (though vexing to my allopathic docs!).

About last February I was gifted some Prill beads and other Twilight products and started improving dramatically.  I also continued to take ormus liquids.  My health improved rapidly.  By May I was pronounced "well" by my allopathic doctors.  That was not news to me.  (I'm still exploring my relationship with the AIDS virus and focusing on completely restoring my immune system and that is going very well.  I am free of symptoms.) I feel great and everyone who sees me spontaneously exclaims how very well and robust I look.  Some even ask me for "my secret", because my vitality is so strikingly obvious.

Now, here's the hard part (for me):  I dearly wish I could say, "take this and this product and you will heal, too" but my healing journey has been way too mysterious and wondrous and personal to draw specific conclusions and make recommendations.  One thing that has been very powerful has been my commitment to go VERY DEEP into my process, accepting it completely, living utterly in the Now, and not making judgments about it or focusing on outcomes.  That has been the hardest and most rewarding part. I'm still very much on this astonishing healing and evolving journey, following my intuition and learning more every day.

I intuitively feel that the ormus products are very beneficial but I suspect they may be just a material, physically manifested sacred technology that is pointing the way to a much more subtle and powerful sacred way of BEING that our species and planet are fast evolving into.  I think they can be powerful tools right now but might prove to be a valuable stepping stone to more wondrous things.  I also feel the Prill water and other living water and healing water technologies I have been exploring and using are being VERY helpful in my healing.  In fact I suspect we will find that pure, living, light-filled water is the most magical physical substance on earth and can be a physically manifested form of the streams of primordial sound and primordial light that are increasingly bathing out planet.  I am convinced that frequency healing, such as Sharon has recently suggested, is the way of the future (or right now).

My energy had already been restored before starting ormus, due to taking singlet oxygen therapy for 2 years. Otherwise I might have seen more response to ormus.

I can report feeling of well being and joy, clarity of mind, some intuitive thoughts and lucid dreams when I was taking both products together.

The ormus materials to me are but one aspect in the body/mind/spirit health spectrum.