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Quantum Computing, ORMUS and Consciousness

I believe that the concept of quantum computing is an essential concept to understanding how ORMUS works with consciousness and the nature of "Life, the universe and everything". (Much of the following should be viewed as personal belief and speculation.)

Quantum computing theorists postulate that one can do computation by utilizing the infinite possibilities of an infinite number of possible universes to arrive at a single answer to a given question.

Multi universe theories and modern quantum theory in general suggest a relationship between consciousness and matter. This relationship can be contemplated from two distinct theoretical perspectives. One can hypothesize that consciousness is a product of matter or one can hypothesize that matter is a product of consciousness.

In some ways, each of these hypotheses would look similar "on-the-ground". The "implicate order" underlying the laws of physics could be "just the way things work" or it could be conscious intent.

The "just the way things work" paradigm is basic to "traditional physics" and the "conscious intent" paradigm is basic to "traditional metaphysics". For a long time, metaphysicists have suggested that the chasm between physics and metaphysics can be bridged. Some modern physicists are also suggesting the this chasm can be bridged. David Bohm developed the concept of "implicate order" in a way which would not preclude the concept of matter as a product of consciousness and Brian Josephson is working on his "Mind/Matter Unification Project.

The bridge between physics and metaphysics is virtually complete but it is lacking the keystone for the main arch.

On the physics side of the bridge, Stuart Hameroff and Roger Penrose have proposed a quantum computing "mechanism" which would explain the incredible computing capacity demonstrated in ordinary life functions. They have proposed that the microtubules inside every cell have quantum computing capability. See:

http://www.consciousness.arizona.edu/hameroff/Pen-Ham/Orch_OR_Model/The%20Orch%20OR%20Paper.htm

In their paper Hameroff and Penrose write:

"We assume that pre-and sub-conscious processing corresponds with quantum coherent superposition which can perform "quantum computing" (Penrose, 1989). A number of authors (e.g. Deutsch, 1985; Deutsch and Josza 1992; Feynman 1986; Benioff, 1982) have proposed that quantum coherence can implement multiple computations simultaneously, in parallel, according to quantum linear superposition: the quantum state then "collapses" to a particular result. A state which "self-collapses" (OR) will have an element of non-computability, even though evolution of its quantum coherence had been linear and computable. A quantum superposed state collapsed by external environment or observation (SR, or R) lacks a non-computable element, and would thus be unsuitable for consciousness. Large scale quantum coherence occurring among tubulins (e.g. via electrons in hydrophobic pockets arrayed in the microtubule lattice, or ordered water within hollow MT cores) could take on aspects of a quantum computer in pre-conscious and sub-conscious modes. . .

. . . But what is consciousness? According to the principles of OR (Penrose, 1994), superpositioned states each have their own space-time geometries. When the degree of coherent mass-energy difference leads to sufficient separation of space-time geometry, the system must choose and decay (reduce, collapse) to a single universe state, thus preventing "multiple universes" (e.g. Wheeler, 1957). In this way, a transient superposition of slightly differing space-time geometries persists until an abrupt quantum classical reduction occurs and one or the other is chosen. Thus consciousness may involve self-perturbations of space-time geometry."

In a nutshell they are saying that through a process of quantum computing the microtubule element throws a problem into the "black box" of all possible universes and pulls the solution out almost instantly. When this happens, the decision point chooses one outcome from among an infinite number of possible outcomes.

They refer to David Deutsch regarding his concepts of quantum computing. What does Deutsch mean by quantum computing? In an online debate between David Deutsch and Seth Lloyd regarding whether parallel universes are equally real, Deutsch writes:

"Furthermore, the universes affect each other. Though the effects are minute, they are detectable in carefully designed experiments. There are projects underway - close to your heart, I know, as well as mine - to harness these effects to perform useful computations. When a quantum computer solves a problem by dividing it into more sub-problems than there are atoms in the universe, and then solving each sub-problem, it will prove to us that those sub-problems were solved somewhere - but not in our universe, for there isn't enough room here. What more do you need to persuade you that other universes exist?"

You can read the balance of this debate at:

http://hotwired.wired.com/synapse/braintennis/97/41/index0a.html

What is the substance which sustains this quantum computing phenomena inside the microtubule? What if the quantum coherence did not collapse and we became aware of multiple universes?

It seems that the keystone for biological quantum computing has been located but has not been identified by conventional science. I believe that this keystone is the ORMUS substances. If this is so, then the key to quantum computing would be the quantum coherence capabilities of the ORMUS elements. According to some scientists biological quantum coherence is closely related to biological superconductivity. See:

http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/evolution.htm

While modern physicists will sometimes make metaphysical speculations, they are reluctant to cite modern metaphysical literature (they will occasionally cite ancient Taoist, Buddhist, Hindu or other scripture).

Rather than the keystone for a bridge, half-completed from both sides of a chasm, modern physics generally sees the next experimental confirmation of quantum physical theory as the latest capstone of the growing pyramid of scientific knowledge.

Just for fun, using the bridge analogy, I am going to describe a bit about modern metaphysical thought so that folks on this forum can see what the other half of such a bridge might look like.

According to several threads of modern metaphysical thought, each individual's free will depends on their ability to perceive and choose from an infinite number of probable futures. While this ability to perceive is largely assigned to the unconscious mind, the instructions or parameters for these choices are conscious.

For example the conscious mind might decide to believe in a future where there is a great natural disaster. (There are many good reasons why the conscious mind might choose disaster. Perhaps the conscious mind wishes to rise to a situation with great heroism or perhaps the conscious mind is feeling guilty for separating the self from others and wishes to join others in solving great problems.) The conscious mind, by toying with a belief in a great natural disaster, would "assign" the unconscious mind the task of looking for a probable future which contained all of the elements of disaster which would satisfy its criteria.

Most of us do not like contrived situations so the conscious mind would likely also assign the unconscious mind to pick a probable future disaster which would have many surprising elements. The instruction from the conscious to the unconscious might go something like this: "I am interested in working heroically with others to rescue survivors of an earthquake or other natural disaster; I don't wish for this to look like I created it so surprise me with the details."

In the conclusion of their paper, Hameroff and Penrose write:

"A critical number of tubulins maintaining coherence within [microtubules] for 500 msec collapses its own wave function (objective reduction: OR). This occurs because the mass-energy difference among the superpositioned states of coherent tubulins critically perturbs space-time geometry. To prevent multiple universes, the system must reduce to a single space-time by choosing eigenstates."

Hameroff and Penrose are implying that in order to avoid "seeing" multiple universes at the same time, the quantum coherence created in microtubules by some material (I think the ORMUS materials) must collapse.

What if the quantum coherence did not collapse and we became aware of multiple universes?

As I mentioned earlier, some modern physicists believe that there are an infinite number of parallel universes. They theorize that atoms are made up of smaller particles which are like bubbles in the quantum foam. These bubbles in the quantum foam or "holes in the aether" (spoken of below) spend a fraction of their existence in each of these parallel universes.

The question of whether we can become aware of multiple universes can be broken down into a smaller question; whether information is transferred between these parallel universes. This question was debated by Deutsch and Lloyd (mentioned above).

The current "state-of-the-art" in metaphysics is the "theory" put forth by an "energy essence personality" called Seth.

In 1990 Norman Friedman published a book titled "Bridging Science and Spirit: Common Elements In David Bohm's Physics, The Perennial Philosophy and Seth". A couple of years ago he wrote an article for Reality Change magazine which has an explanation about who Seth is, as well as an explanation of some of the correlations between physics and the "Seth" philosophy. Here are a couple of excerpts from that article:

Seth and Physics: The Construction of the Physical Universe

By Norman Friedman, author of Bridging Science and Spirit and speaker at SethNet '94

"Jane Roberts (1929-1984) was a novelist and poet before she became a channel for the entity who calls himself Seth. In September 1963, Jane had what she described as her first paranormal experience. While writing poetry, she suddenly felt her consciousness leave her body, and simultaneously she began writing (or recording) a torrent of new ideas entering her mind. These writings are the enormously provocative definitions entitled "The Physical Universe as Idea Construction."1 The amazing aspect of this encounter for Jane was that not only were some of these ideas new to her but many were contrary to her own beliefs.

At the time, Jane was researching and writing a book on extra-sensory perception, the acquisition of information outside the five senses. As part of her project, she and her husband Robert Butts began experimenting with a Ouija board. After a few sessions, they began receiving messages from Seth---an "energy essence personality," using Seth's terms. After a few more sessions, Jane began anticipating the Ouija board messages and speaking them before the pointer moved. Soon after that she was capable of full trance in which she allowed Seth to use her body to deliver his message. These sessions resulted in a number of books written by Jane Roberts and others dictated by Seth."

Friedman's article goes on to describe several correlations between modern scientific thought and Seth's "theories" and ends with a discussion of the multiple universe theory:

"One final aspect should be considered. If we each make our own reality, how is it that we perceive a single shared reality "out there?" According to Seth, there exists an infinite number of realities---all occupying the same space. As an example, imagine three persons plus a cat in a room with a table. According to Seth, there are actually three rooms, each with a table, each in a three-dimensional space. There is also a fourth room made by the cat. The rooms made by the people are enough alike to create the impression of the same "room," the reason being that the humans have the same neurological structure and are on relatively the same level of conscious awareness. The room made by the cat is probably quite different but since we have no common language, we cannot determine its characteristics.

You might be thinking that surely there is no counterpart to such an idea in contemporary physics. But a construct called Hilbert space offers some parallels.

When quantum theory was originally formulated, it was found that ordinary three-dimensional space was not adequate if all the independent possibilities were to be handled. For example, if two electrons make up the quantum state, one three-dimensional space for both electrons would not allow the physicist to perform such calculations as the conservation of momentum if two electrons collide. In short, a six-dimensional space is required---three for each electron. As the possibilities increase, the number of dimensions increase. The physicist uses an infinite-dimensional Hilbert space for calculations, with the particle becoming a pattern in this infinite-dimensional space. It is as if each electron requires its own space. An analogy would be two people in separate cities playing a game of chess and communicating their moves through a telephone link. In such an arrangement, two chess boards are required, each with the pieces placed in the same pattern. Thus the idea that we construct our own reality is like each of us having our own chessboard of life, playing the game according to generally agreed upon rules.

In summary, Seth makes these assertions, which are clearly related to concepts in contemporary physics:

· Energy is the basis of the universe.

· Energy is consciousness: that is to say, mind is inherent in all matter from the elementary particle to the human.

· The universe is constructed from mental activity and from all consciousness.

· All conscious gestalts are constrained by their level of development but willingly cooperate to create a consensus reality. In the simplest terms, all is energy, energy is consciousness, and all cooperate for the development of all."

More information on "Bridging Science and Spirit" is available on the web at:

http://brassringbooks.com/rchange/rcperm.htm

The article quoted above can be found on the same web site.

In The "Unknown" Reality by Jane Roberts which was dictated by Seth in 1974-75, Seth claims that matter is made up of basic units of consciousness. Here are some key excerpts from Seth's explanation of this concept in The "Unknown" Reality:

Session 682

"So I prefer, here to speak of these units of consciousness instead. Their nature is the vitalizing force behind everything in your physical universe, and others as well. These units can indeed appear in several places at once, and without going through space, in your terms. Literally now, these basic units of consciousness can be in all places at once. They are in all places at once. They will not be recognized because they will always appear as something else.

Of course they move faster than light. There are millions of them in one atom--many millions. Each of these units is aware of the reality of all others, and influences all others. In your terms these units can move forward or backward in time, but they can also move into thresholds of time with which you are not familiar.

All probabilities are probed and experienced, and all possible universes created from these units. Therefore, there are realities in which the endless probabilities of one given event are probed, and all experience grouped about that venture.

There are systems in which a moment, from your standpoint, is made to endure for the life of a universe. I do not mean that a moment is simply stretched, or that time is slowed down alone, but that all the experiences possible within a moment have become realities within that framework."

Session 683

"Anything apparent to whatever degree in your system is developed in another.

The point of all this is that these units are unpredictable, and fulfill all probabilities of consciousness. Any concepts of gods or other beings that are based upon limited ideas of personhood will ultimately be futile. You view the fantastic variety of physical life--its animals, insects, birds, fish, man and all his works--with hardly a qualm; yet you must understand that the nature of consciousness itself is far more varied, and you must learn to think of an inner reality that is as infinite as the exterior one. These concepts alone do alter your present consciousness, and change it to a degree. The present idea of the soul, you see, is a "primitive" idea that can scarcely begin to explain the creativity or reality from which mankind's being comes. You are multipersons. You exist in many times and places at once. You exist as one person, simultaneously. This does not deny the independence of the persons, but your inner reality straddles their reality, while it serves as a psychic world in which they can grow."

Session 695

"All probable selves are connected. They each influence one another. There is a natural interaction, but no coercion. Each probable self has its own free will and uniqueness. You can change your own experience in the probability that you know--which itself rides upon infinite other probabilities."

Session 733

"In your terms, the world is intensely different from one moment to another, with each smallest portion of consciousness choosing its reality from a field of infinite probabilities."

Preface

"The self is multidimensional when it is physically alive. It is a triumph of spiritual and psychological identity, ever choosing from a myriad of probable realities its own clear unassailable focus. . . The fact is that in life you poise delicately and yet perfectly between realities, and after death you do the same."

Session 681

"You can choose to accept as your reality any number of given unpredictable events. In that respect, the choice is yours, but all the events you do not accept occur nevertheless."

Session 682

"All matter is based upon the units mentioned, with their unpredictability and their propensity for exploring all probabilities. Even your atomic structure, then, is poised between probabilities. If this is true, then obviously "you" are aware of only one small probable portion of yourself--and this portion you protect as your identity. If you think of it as simply a focus taken by "your" greater identity, then you will be able to follow what I am saying without feeling puny by contrast, or lost. The focus that you have is indeed inviolate.

I have often said that even in your lifetimes, all probable variations of any one event occur, but I never went much further. With your focus, it seems that you have a line of identity from birth to death. Looking back at any point, you are sure that the "self" of ten years ago is the self of today, though perhaps changed in certain respects.

There is, of course, no single-line kind of development at all. In the first place, as you know, your life is at once, though you experience, practically, a life-to-death sequence--Ruburt's living area in Adventures. Every probable event that could happen to you, happens."

It is very clear from these quotes that Seth believes that there are an infinite number of probable selves and that they live in an infinite number of probable universes which share our Consciousness Units and which are as real in every way as the one each of us chooses to perceive.

Modern physics is draped all over certain very Seth like concepts. I believe the keystone to the bridge connecting physics and metaphysics is the ORMUS materials. These materials would explain the physics of the microtubule and would provide the bridge that physicists are looking for to "prove" the new theories on parallel universes, microtubules as a connection to consciousness and also all the psychic phenomena we can imagine. What are Seth's Consciousness Units in the "real world"? How do they relate to another Seth concept--Electromagnetic Energy units?

You can see the parallels between the proposed properties of these Consciousness Units and the properties of the material inside microtubules. Both theories propose that there is a substance in physical reality which is a connector between multiple universes and the physical universe which we know. What is it?

Such a substance would help explain the physics of the microtubule and would provide the bridge that physicists are looking for to "prove" the new theories on parallel universes and microtubules as a connection to consciousness. It might also provide a physical "mechanism" for psychic phenomena which can be thought of as a "hidden" connection between the individual and everything else.

Our free will comes from the infinite parallel universes which we can (and do) choose. Also, we are an integral part of the process which builds and maintains physical matter in each of these parallel universes (or probable realities if you prefer). In The Seth Material, Seth says:

"The objective world is the end result of inner action. You can indeed manipulate the objective world from within, for this is the means and definition of true manipulation....

"Thoughts and images are formed into physical reality and become physical fact. They are propelled chemically. A thought IS energy. It begins to produce itself physically at the moment of its conception.

"Mental enzymes are connected with the pineal gland. As you know them, body chemicals are physical, but they are the propellants of this thought-energy, containing all the codified data necessary for translating any thought or image into physical actuality. They cause the body to reproduce the inner image. They are sparks, so to speak, initiating the transformation.

"Chemicals are released through the skin and pore systems, in an invisible but definite pseudophysical formation. The intensity of a thought or image largely determines the immediacy of its physical materialization. There is no object about you that you have not created. There is nothing about your own physical image that you have not made.

"The initial thought or image exists within the mental enclosure [as explained in earlier sessions]. It is not yet physical Then it is sparked into physical materialization by the mental enzymes.

"This is the general procedure. All such images or thoughts are not completely materialized in your terms, however. The intensity may be too weak. The chemical reaction sparks certain electrical charges, some within the layers of the skin. There are radiations then through the skin to the exterior world, containing highly codified instructions and information.

"The physical environment is as much a part of you, then, as your body. Your control over it is quite effective, for you create it as you create your fingertip.... Objects are composed of the same pseudomaterial that radiates outward from your own physical image, only the higher intensity mass is different. When it is built up enough, you recognize it as an object. At low intensity mass it is not apparent to you.

"Every nerve and fiber within the body has an inner purpose that is not seen, and that serves to connect the inner self with physical reality, that allows the inner self to create physical reality. In one respect, the body and physical objects go flying out in all directions from the inner core of the whole self."

"Nerve impulses travel outward from the body, invisibly along these nerve pathways in much the same manner that they travel within the body. The pathways are carriers of telepathic thoughts, impulses, and desires that travel outward from any given self, altering seemingly objective events."

This next is quite important, I think:

"In a very real manner, events or objects are actually focal points where highly charged psychic impulses are transformed into something that can be physically perceived: a breakthrough into matter. When such highly charged impulses intersect or coincide, matter is formed The reality behind such an explosion into matter is independent of the matter itself. An identical or nearly identical pattern may reemerge 'at any time' again and again, if the proper coordinates exist for activation."

Throughout the centuries many people have recognized that mind and matter were related, but the Seth Material specifically gives the ways and means by which mind is translated into the reality that we know. Exactly what force is beneath the smallest units of matter, for example? How does the breakthrough into matter occur?

And what is the point of all this? Seth says:

"In your system of reality you are learning what mental energy is, and how to use it. You do this by constantly transforming your thoughts and emotions into physical form. You are supposed to get a clear picture of your inner development by perceiving the exterior environment. What seems to be a perception, an objective concrete event independent from you, is instead the materialization of your own inner emotions, energy, and mental environment."

In a sense, we are manifesting from the infinite present those circumstances which most closely match our beliefs and feelings in order to see what they would look like all dressed up in the "physical" world. Our dreams may be different drafts of the script but the final play is our everyday life.

But what is the infinite present? I have an analogy that I use when explaining the concept of the infinite present.

Imagine a room full of Mickey Mouse dolls. You take a strobe laser light, which is capable of illuminating one doll at a time, into this room. All of the dolls are there but you can see only one at a time. According to what you believe is possible, you can move the light from one doll to another so that it looks like Mickey stands up or walks around or sits down. Now, postulate that the light is consciousness and the decision of where and how fast to move it is determined by our beliefs. Though all of the dolls are there in the room at once, (all of time exists "at once") it "looks like" there is change through time.

Jack Sarfatti used an analogy of multiple layers of film to represent different "parallel" universes in his popular explanation of the many worlds theory titled Space-Time and Beyond. I have trouble limiting the analogy to a stack of parallel film strips. The three dimensional analogy sort of opened things up. I imagine that a twelve dimensional analogy would be more appropriate but I'm not sharp enough to figure out how to present such a thing let alone conceptualize it myself.

I like to think of time as a way of structuring consciousness or attention. We believe in time and cause & effect, therefore we experience these things.

The difficult part of this concept is to try to grasp the true scope of infinity. There is an infinite number of Mickey Mouse dolls of every possible (and impossible) shape and configuration.

The thing about infinity is, there sure is a lot of it.

So the next question people ask is, "if everything already exists, where is the creativity - what is new?" The concept of fractals is useful here. If you have ever watched a computer fractal generator, you will see a pattern which is duplicated continuously at smaller and smaller scale. After the generator has been working for a while, the pattern will begin to look pretty much the same because the change is happening at too fine a scale to be visible.

Our lives are on the changing edge of the fractal pattern. While all the Mickey Mouse dolls already exist in the room, there are always new and creative ways to move the strobe laser from one to another.

This leading edge experience is well described by Ester Hicks speaking for Abraham:

It's an interesting thing -- humans want nonphysical to be complete and perfect, and they want to see themselves as unworthy and trying to catch up with that. When really what's happening is that you, in your worthiness and your perfection, have come forth into this environment in order to conjure desire that summons that which is us. So we are the support of that which you are becoming. You are the leading edge, we're following through with that which you lead.

The appreciation that nonphysical feels for the physically-focused human who bangs around in the contrast for the express purpose of giving birth to a new desire which summons All-That-Is forward into the bright new place. And without that expansion, we would all cease to be.

So you are not, and have never been, broken and substandard, trying to [get] back into Heaven or the nonphysical. You've always been the creative genius out here on the leading edge carving the path for All-That-Is to follow. We're all in this together, and as we've said many times today, we seek to blur the line between what is physical and nonphysical. We would like to imbue you fully with the fullness that is us. We would like you to consciously love you as we consciously love you. But we cannot tweak your brain to make you think -- you get to think. That's that free will. And that free will is so essential in the contrasting, comparative experience because if you did not have free will you could not conjure a new desire. And if you could not conjure a new desire we could not move forward, you see.

And so we would just like you to love yourself more and allow yourself more of the benefit that you are providing for all of us. You see, whether you allow it [for yourself] or not, the Universe expands and benefits by your very presence here. And when we talk about Art of Allowing, we just want you in on the fun. Because whether you allow it or not the Universe expands and whether you know it or not you are of value. And whether you know it or not, we all benefit by your existence. When you know it, when you know your value, then you get warm, fulfilling feeling, that oneness that we think is what you're really reaching for.

-- Abraham -- Fort Collins, CO, 6/14/03

I think it is important here to tie back to Seth's concept of the "units of consciousness" through which all "probabilities are probed and experienced, and all possible universes created". According to Seth these consciousness units are the basic components of all matter and would, therefore, be the fundamental units of quantum computing.

The ancient yogin claimed that they could make themselves as large or as small as they wished. This would mean that they could "see" things at a cosmic scale or at an atomic scale.

In the late part of the 19th century, two yoga practitioners named Annie Besant and Charles Leadbeater decided to develop their "yogic vision" in order to use it to examine the world of the atom. They claim that they developed this ability and that they developed a great deal of facility with it. They used this ability to examine and describe the atomic structure of all of the known physical elements. These descriptions were published in a book titled "Occult Chemistry".

Since the observations of Leadbeater and Besant were first published at the end of the 19th century, it would seem to be fairly easy to confirm the validity of their observation by examining how closely they conformed to modern atomic theory. This was first done in the early part of the 20th century when the solar system model of the atom was state-of-the-art theory. Since Besant and Leadbeater's "observations" did not conform very closely to the then current model they were dismissed.

In the mid 1970s the work of Leadbeater and Besant was again examined by a modern physicist named Stephen M. Phillips. This time Phillips concluded that their "observations" fit quite closely with modern quark theory. Phillips published a book which describes his reasoning and conclusions. [Extra-Sensory Perception of Quarks, by Stephen M. Phillips, PhD, 1980, Theosophical Publishing House, Wheaton IL, ISBN 0-8356-0227-3, US $15.00]

So we have some indications that Besant and Leadbeater's observations are valid. Though they used different terms to describe the fundamental building blocks of subatomic particles, their description of these building blocks is compatible with modern concepts of "quantum foam" and also the Consciousness Units described by Seth.

The following description of these building blocks from Occult Chemistry was written by C. W. Leadbeater in 1907. Note the fractal and superstring connotations in this quote:

"To help us to understand more clearly let us examine the ultimate atom of the physical plane. (See Figs. 3 and 6.) It is composed of ten rings or wires, which lie side by side, but never touch one another. If one of these wires be taken away from the atom, and as it were untwisted from its peculiar spiral shape and laid out on a flat surface, it will be seen that it is a complete circle-a tightly twisted endless coil. This coil is itself a spiral containing 1,680 turns; it can be unwound. and it will then make a much larger circle. There are in each wire seven sets of such coils or spirillae, each finer than the preceding coil to which its axis lies at right angles. The process of unwinding them in succession may be continued until we have nothing but an enormous circle of the tiniest imaginable dots lying like pearls upon an invisible string. These dots are so inconceivably small that many millions of them are needed to make one ultimate physical atom. They appear to be the basis of all matter of which we at present know anything; astral. mental and buddhic atoms also are built of them, so we may regard them as the fundamental units of which all material atoms on any plane yet attainable are composed.

These units are all alike, spherical and absolutely simple in construction. Though they are the basis of all matter, they are not themselves matter; they are not blocks but bubbles. They do not resemble bubbles floating in the air, which consist of a thin film of water separating the air within them from the air outside, so that the film has both an outer and an inner surface. Their analogy is rather with the bubbles that we see rising in water, bubbles which may be said to have only one surface-that of the water which is pushed back by the confined air. Just as the bubbles are not water, but are precisely the spots from which water is absent, so these units are not koilon but the absence of koilon- the only spots where it is not-specks of nothingness floating in it, so to speak, for the interior of these space-bubbles is an absolute void to the highest power of vision that we can turn upon them.

What then is their real content-the tremendous force that can blow bubbles in a material of infinite density? What but the creative power of the Logos, the Breath which He breathes into the waters of space when He wills that manifestation shall commence? These infinitesimal bubbles are the "holes" which "Fohat digs in space"; the Logos Himself fills them, and holds them in existence against the pressure of the koilon because He Himself is in them. These units of force are the bricks which He uses in the building of His universe, and everything that we call matter, on however high or low a place it may be, is composed of these and so is divine in its very essence.

The Outbreathing which makes these bubbles is quite distinct from and long antecedent to the Three Outpourings which have been so frequently discussed in Theosophical literature; it is not even certain whether it is the work of the Solar Logos or of One a stage higher still, The later Outpourings whirl the bubbles into the various arrangements which we call the atoms of the several planes, and then aggregate those atoms into the molecules of the chemical elements.

Thus the worlds are gradually built up, but always out of this selfsame material which to us seems nothingness, and yet is divine power. It is indeed a veritable creation, a building of something out of nothing-of what we call matter out of a privation of matter."

A drawing which accompanies this description is available on the Web at:

http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/spiral.gif

So, you might ask, has anyone used the tool of "yogic vision" or remote viewing to observe the ORMUS materials? Indeed they have. I have known three such persons and have heard of others. Two of these people are electronic engineers and the third is a chemical engineer. All of them have used their "yogic" vision to inform their work.

One of the electronic engineers wished to be known only as Gary. Gary has written a bit about Besant and Leadbeater's work and a bit more about his work with the keystone materials. You can find his paper on the web at:

Paranormal Observations of ORMEs Atomic Structure

http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/paranorm.htm

The ORMUS materials are a strong candidate for the elements which mix with the water inside the microtubules and allow it to become a superconductive medium.

In the Paranormal Observations paper Gary writes:

"There are several forces, flowing between and linking individual anu into associations of the different subatomic particles, and these forces are seen to originate from, and return to, higher dimensions. They well-up and later disappear, in a source/sink fashion, associated with anu forming the ends of their flow paths in our 3 dimensions. Several types of distinct forces transit along the different coils or whorls of the anu themselves. Still other types of forces act through larger particles and atoms, and linking monatoms (for instance) together into diatomic arrangements. Describing all the forces which can be observed at work is a real challenge. It will take a great deal of work to separate and quantify these forces, to reduce them to physics."

I suspect that these are the forces, which Seth speaks of, that create and maintain our physical reality. While scientists are saying that the microtubule may be the place where our biological quantum computer is connected to infinite parallel universes, Seth is saying that All That Is is manifesting and maintaining physical reality through us. These two concepts have a common linkage and really are looking at the same process from opposite ends. The trick is knowing enough of the languages of physics, alchemy, Seth and Theosophy to recognize the connections which are so clearly there.

Some other modern physicists are postulating a couple of concepts which would be models of a link between the self and the universe. These concepts are the fractal consciousness concept and the holographic universe concept.

The fractal consciousness concept is intertwined with the holographic universe concept. In a sense, the fractal concept is identical to the holographic concept. Each branch of the fractal contains the pattern of the whole fractal in much the same way as each piece of a hologram contains the entire picture of the hologram.

Both of these concepts seem to relate to psychic observations of sub-atomic structure carried out by Besant and Leadbeater in the early part of this century. They also relate to psychic observations of the ORMUS materials which are ongoing.

Following is Gary's introduction to his Paranormal Observations of ORMEs Atomic Structure paper:

Between August 1895 and October 1933, Charles W. Leadbeater and Annie Besant of the Theosophical Society conducted clairvoyant studies of the atomic structure of the elements. Both of these individuals had previously awakened kundalini; Leadbeater has described his having done so by pranayama, which is the same method I used. After kundalini has been awakened, and after the ajna chakra (brow chakra) is fully functioning, it is possible to extend one's consciousness, specifically the faculty of vision, through great ranges in magnification capability, and either up or down in objective size. In yogic writings, this is part of what is allegorically referred to as the ability to make oneself very small or very large at will. These are the first and second of the eight major siddhis, the Sanskrit Anima and Mahima. The actual nature and extent of many of the siddhis, or paranormal powers, are often (intentionally) described allegorically, and so are widely misunderstood. Anima and Mahima actually each refer to several different things.

One of these, or what actually happens, and is being referred to in the case of these observations, is that a projection from the ajna chakra is formed by the yogi; the functional aperture and gain of this protuberant projection or filament can be controlled by the yogi, according to the scale of the object under observation. This extended faculty is symbolically depicted in ancient Egyptian iconography by the small serpent on the pharaoh's forehead, which is dismissed by most Egyptologists as being just a part of the headdress. By its means, one is capable of seeing objects far smaller and far more distant than is possible by means of any man-made instruments yet devised. Leadbeater, for example, describes an entire spectrum of particle sizes below the subatomic particles which make up physical atoms.

The results of Leadbeater's and Besant's investigations were published serially as articles in the magazine, The Theosophist. The material was later arranged and published in 1909 in a book titled "Occult Chemistry", which was revised in a second edition in 1919. In 1951, a much enlarged and revised third edition (396 pages) was published in Adyar, Madras, India. I am fortunate to have copies of these two later editions. Over twenty years ago, in the 1970's, I corresponded at length with the Theosophical Society's Olcott Library, and they graciously provided me with a good deal of further information. Since that time, and during my own studies, I have awaited in hopes that the Theosophical Society would reprint all the original material. This has not yet occurred, though I continue to hope for it. Editions of Occult Chemistry are now very rare and difficult to find.

However, a British physicist named Stephen Phillips became aware of this material, and in 1980 published a book titled "Extra-Sensory Perception of Quarks", describing the two Theosophist's work and interpreting it in the light of modern atomic theory. Though the atomic structures observed by the yogic faculty, as described by Leadbeater and Besant, did not make much sense to their contemporaries, present day theories of atomic structure and particle physics make their descriptions much more recognizable, validated, and startlingly accurate, as Dr. Phillips was amazed to discover.

Phillip's book was published before the high spin state was recognized, and so he does not discuss it from this aspect. However, he does notice how the observations match the Higgs superconducting vacuum model, recognizes non-Abelian monopoles with Nielsen-Olesen vortices as carrying quantized flux, and identifies the mechanisms at work underlying quark stability, among many other things. All in all, he did a fine job of it.

[Extra-Sensory Perception of Quarks, by Stephen M. Phillips, PhD, 1980, Theosophical Publishing House, Wheaton IL, ISBN 0-8356-0227-3, US $15.00]

The abstract of a recent paper by Phillips on this subject is also available on the Web at:

http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/abstracts/v9n4a2.html

Gary further describes his observations of these subatomic structures:

"If one takes an anu, and uses the Will to take it apart and completely dissociate it, this can be done, but as soon as the Will is released, the anu reforms again. It is like taking a piece of slinky spring, and unwinding it by stretching it out and pressing it flat on the floor with your hands. But as soon as you let go, it pops back. The individual anu are each (one discovers) direct force-aspect manifestations of a higher Will, which generates and sustains all the matter in the Universe. It is... in very fact, the "Force", which is with us. This Force originates from a dimension far higher than we (certainly, I) can reach while still clinging to corporeal form. When we try to conceive of the stupendous number of anu, throughout all matter of the visible galaxies, which are being held in existence in such manner, the extent and scope of that Will is truly mind numbing."

There are other concepts with which I am not totally familiar but which might have connections to this discussion. Tony Smith has an excellent web page with descriptions and links for some of the ideas surrounding the multiple universe or "many worlds" theory. He links Taoist, Vedic, Mayan, I Ching, Chinese astrology and Kabbala concepts to the multiple worlds theory. He does this from the perspective of a mathematician and physicist. Check this page out at:

http://www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/allspaces.html

Here is a quote on Mayan beliefs from one of the many links on Tony's old web pages:

"The Mayans see God as the divine creative imagination that "imagined" this universe into being. To awaken one's own cosmic creative imagination is to awaken to one's own immortal divine nature. At this point one becomes co-operative and co-creative with the universal creative imagination, which is presently imagining, and thus creating, this reality.

The Mayans believe that you can change your past history by changing its memory in the present. They use dreamwork or altered states to reengineer their memories, thus changing their pasts. They are then molders and not victims of time.

We unfold our reality by the decisions we make. The Mayans believe that there exist alternate versions of reality corresponding to the decision paths not taken and that we can, under certain circumstances, connect with these alternate realities in ways that can benefit us."

The concept of quantum computing is intimately tied into our concepts of time, as well. These connections were the topic of an on-line discussion that I had in 1998 with the Finnish theoretical physicist Matti Pitkanen.

Here is an edited version of a portion of this dialogue:

[Matti]

The advances in understanding of time (I hope that they are real) were triggered by some question in the quantum mind discussion group. My basic problem was to understand why the arrow of psychological time and why psychological time at all: moments of consciousness correspond to quantum jumps between quantum *histories*. In this framework one would expect that contents of conscious experience are diffused over entire histories and the problem is to understand how the time-localized component of CS [Conscious Selection] experience results.

I had understood how the concepts of conscious experience can be localized to a definite value of geometric time for a particular experiencer (that is particular irreducible part of conscious experience). I had also idea about how local arrow comes. But this was not enough as I thought.

I did not realize that basic difficulty was caused by my sticking to the common sense idea that given moment of consciousness corresponds to *definite value of cosmological time*: all experiencers of the universe live just this particular moment of cosmic time about 10^11 years or so.

There is no need to assume this!! Each moment of consciousness decomposes into separate conscious experiences with values of psychological time ranging from zero to infinity. The civilizations of geometric past still live and flourish and versions of me come behind me in geometric time propagate as waves of free will. I live my life again and again, rebirth happens roughly at 1950 again and again! (Unless there is some kind of liberation from this time cycle of Karma!), Each life is a little bit better by p-adic evolution (which was a second big discovery during last half year).

[Barry]

This concept is remarkably similar to something that Seth said in an unpublished early session. Here is a quote from that session:

"Space and time are constructions of ideas. They do not appear physically, as say a table or a chair, yet they seem to define both a table and a chair, in that you cannot easily conceive of a piece of furniture, for example, existing except in the medium of space and time.

"The ideas of space and time are constructed in different ways in various systems. In some they appear as natural phenomena, for example as various classifications of objects, in some as variations of sound or light. You find it exceedingly difficult to consider existence at all without space and time, yet basically consciousness is independent of both.

"The ideas of space and time emerge only when consciousness adopts camouflage, only when it becomes wedded, in other words, with a physical type existence. Time and space are both creations of consciousness, in other words, and vehicles of its expression.

"Matter is a classification. As explained in my book, various levels of concentration can be used as platforms leading you out of focus, into other time schemes. Time is like color. You are merely focusing upon one hue. (10:39)

"Your present civilization and the ‘old’ Sumerian (spelled) civilization, exist at once, then simultaneously, but to speak to you about these I must use a time sequence you understand. If it were understood that these civilizations exist at once, then you would not be so surprised that they ‘were’ able to build structures that you cannot build in your now.

"Your now and their now exists now.

"In the present physical area in which it seems to you that a physical civilization once existed, that civilization still exists. You cannot meet it though you stand at the same spot, because of the ideas of time that separate you. The civilization in flower, and the ruins, coexist. The living ancient Sumerians pass the modern tourists without seeing them, even as the tourists walk in the middle of the old Sumerian marked places and see only ruins.

"Much of this could be explained n mathematical equations that presently escape you. Your own consciousness is contemporary with the ancient Sumerians (spelled) as well as with your current selves in your terms.

(10:46) "Think of countries existing simultaneously now on your planet. There are differences in language and culture, and it takes a certain amount of earth time to travel through space to visit them. In the same way all times exist at once, with their peculiar customs, and in your terms within the same space that you know.

"You have learned how to make roads through space, but not through time on a conscious level. There are intersections n time and space, however, that you have not recognized. I am speaking in your terms, hopefully to make this simpler. (Pause.) Times exist then as surely as places. You think of time as moving toward something, and of space as relatively stable.

"It does not occur to you then that you can get to times, as you can get to places. (Pause at 10:53.) All of this is highly difficult to explain. I do not mean for example that time, each moment, is a finished and done thing to be visited. While time is not moving in a particular direction, in your terms, each moment explodes outwards, or expands outward in all directions.

"Space and time as you understand them ripple through each other. They do not behave as you think they do, however. Presently you understand your existence only as it intrudes into three dimensions. Its own activity is in many other dimensions however.

"The Sumari, therefore, appear in or intrude into the three dimensional system from other dimensions.

"Now you may take a break or end the session as you prefer."

Rob: "We’ll take the break."

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[Matti]

Therefore subjective world is really 4-dimensional! It is only various components of conscious experience, which contain mainly information about 3-dimensional section of quantum history and create the common sense illusion that all other conscious beings live the same time. It is the 'timelike' counterpart of pre-Keplerian illusion about Earth as the center of the Universe: space is only replaced with time in this illusion.

It is somewhat frustrating to find, that all consciousness theory builders having some name share this common sense belief (to say nothing about physicists) and refuse to spend a second for pondering the possibility that it might be illusion. This despite the logical contradictions implied by time=constant snapshot world view in quantum theory.

[Barry]

Your analogy to the geocentric world view is really quite apt. Then we saw the earth as the center of a small universe, now we see the universe as extending to physical infinity. Unfortunately we still see time as starting with the big bang and ending with entropic heat death. We are only beginning to expand our awareness to where it can encompass infinite time. Only a few are even beginning to expand their comprehension of time "horizontally" to include infinite probable realities.

Here is some more Seth stuff on time:

Time quotes from Seth Speaks

The soul's perceptions are not dependent upon time, because time is a physical camouflage and does not apply to nonphysical reality.

Time does not consist of a series of moments, one before the other, though you perceive it now in that fashion. Events are not things that happen to you. They are materialized experiences formed by you according to your expectations and beliefs.

There was no beginning and there will be no end.

What you perceive of time is a portion of other events intruding into your own system, often interpreted as movement in space, or as something that separates events - if not in space, then in a way impossible to define without using the concept of time.

What separates events is not time, but your perception. You perceive events "one at a time." Time as it appears to you is instead a psychic organization of experience. The seeming beginning and end of an event, the seeming birth and death, are simply other dimensions of experience as, for example, height, width, weight

Though it seems to you that reincarnational existences involve past and future events, they are existences parallel or adjacent to your own present life and consciousness. Other aspects of your greater entity exist, relatively speaking, about or around these.

There is interaction between you and your reincarnational selves constantly, . . . there is "constant action across the board."

Time Quotes from "The 'Unknown' Reality"

At 9:45 PM 2/27/74, Seth said:

Now: Basically, the cell's comprehension straddles time as you think of it. Period.

Mankind's consciousness, however, experimented along time-specific lines. As he developed along those lines, various biological and mental methods of selectivity and discrimination were utilized. When in historic terms mankind became aware of memory, and recalled his past as a past in your terms, it was possible for him to confuse past and present. Vivid memories, out of context but given immediate neurological validity, could compete with the brilliant focus necessary in his present.

Though the past is actually quite as immediate, alive, and creative as the present is, man made certain adjustments, on several layers, that would focus definite distinctions and set past and present experience apart. While your particular kind of consciousness was developing, it began to intensify selectivity, to concentrate specifically in a small area of activity while blocking out other data. This was necessary because the particular kind of physical manipulation of corporal existence required instant physical response to immediately present stimuli.

(9:55.) Such selectivity and specialization therefore represented a pertinent method, as consciousness familiarized itself with earthly experience. Hunters had to respond at once to the present situation. In time terms, the "present" animal had to be killed for foodnot the "past" animal. That animalthe past oneexisted as surely as the one presently perceived, yet in man's context, physical action had to be directed to a highly specific area, for physical survival depended upon it.

(Pause, and slowly:) The cells' basic innocence of time discrimination had to be bypassed. At deeply unconscious levels the neurological structure is more highly adaptable than it appears. Adjustments were made, therefore. Basically, the neurological structure responds to both past and future data Biologically, then, such activity is built-in. The specialized "new" kind of consciousness in one body had to respond pinpoint fast. Therefore it focused upon only one series of neurological messages.

(As Seth, Jane was enunciating the material very carefully, almost syllable by syllable, as though to give me time to write it down without error. Her diction in trance is usually excellent, though; it's not often that I have to ask her to repeat a word or phrase.)

These became more and more biologically prominent, so that man's consciousness rode them, or leaped upon them. These particular pulses or messages became the biologically and mentally accepted ones. They were clued into sense perception, then. These pulses or messages became the only official data that, translated into sense perception, formed physical reality. This selectivity gave an understandable line of reference from interior to exterior existence.

(10:10. Deliberately but intently:) Other quite-as-valid messages were ignored. They became, while present, biologically invisible. The cells still reacted to these otherwise neglected pulses, as they needed data from both the past and future to maintain the body's balance in "the present." The necessity for immediate conscious exterior action at a "definite" point of intersection with events was left to the emerging ego consciousness.

While the cells required future and past data, and used it to form from that invisible tension the body's present corporal reality, the same kind of information could be a threat then to the ego consciousness, which could be overwhelmed. Within the corporal structure, however, there are indeed messages that leap too quickly or too slowly from your viewpoint to allow for any physical response. In that way cellular comprehension is allowed its free flow; but the selectivity mentioned (in sessions 682-3) bypasses such information, so that it does not conflict with present sense data requiring physical action in time.

Other pulses, carrying messages, are quite as valid as those that you perceive and physically react to. Again, the cells respond to those constantly. The body, as mentioned (in the 685th session) is an electromagnetic pattern, poised in a web of probabilities, experienced as corporal at an intersection point in space and time.

When man, speaking in your terms of history, began to experiment with memory, there were innumerable instances where the emerging ego consciousness did not distinguish clearly enough between the past and present, as you understand them.

The past, in the present, would appear so brilliantly that man could not react adequately in circumstances of time that he had himself created. The future was blocked, practically speaking (long pause), to preserve freedom of action and to encourage physical exploration, curiosity, and creativity. With memory, however, mental projections into the future were of course also possible so that man could plan his activities in time, and foresee probable results: "Ghost images" of the future probabilities always acted as mental stimuli for physical explorations in all areas, and of all kinds.

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Please note that this passage ties together the concept of microtubule CS from both past and future as well as probable or multiple realities. It gives an "evolutionary" reason for our present lack of awareness regarding future and past perceptions. Though Seth uses the term "cell" it is obvious that he is talking about cellular structures as well.

In an earlier session in The Unknown Reality, Seth described the conscious selection from probable realities a bit further:

Body is also pattern Period. While the material that composes it changes constantly, the pattern maintains its own integrity. The form is etched in space and time, and yet the pattern itself exists outside of that framework alsothe body is a projection, therefore, into the three-dimensional field.

The consciousnesses of the cells within it, however, are eternal. The physical framework, then, is itself composed of immortal stuff. The projection in time and space may disappear, in your terms, wither and die. The main identity continues to exist, even as the consciousnesses of millions of cells still exist that at one time were part of the body.

(A one-minute pause at 9:59.)

While inhabited by the usual human consciousness, the living body operates as an intense focus point. The conglomeration of consciousnesses within it on all levels focuses its own network of communication. This private network is connected to all others like it. There are levels of interaction then simply between all bodies, electromagnetically and biologically. The network is more far-reaching than that, however. Not only can all cells respond to each other, but their mass activity triggers even higher centers of consciousness to respond to a given set of world conditions, rather than to other quite-as-legitimate world conditions that do not fit the accepted pattern. Probabilities to some extent, then, are determined along cellular lines. This should be obvious.

(A long pause, one of many, at 10:07.) The body's very structure will in itself set patterns for the kinds of probabilities that can be practically experienced. The source-reality out of which all else springs is never predeterminedthat is, predestined, or even set. The universe in any terms is always being created. Period.

When consciousness is being specified, it always sees itself at the center of its world. All specifications of consciousness and all phenomenal appearances occur when the basic units of consciousness, the CU's [Consciousness Units, might correspond to quantum foam], emerge into EE [Electromagnetic Energy] units, and hence into the dimensions of actuality in your terms. Your mainly accepted normal consciousness is within the matter of your body, and through itthe bodyyou view your world. There is nothing to prevent you from viewing your body from a standpoint outside of it, except that you have been taught that consciousness is imprisoned within the flesh.

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In another section of the same book Seth talks about a sort of hereditary "back action" from the future:

For example: It is truer to say that heredity operates from the future backward into the past, than it is to say that it operates from the past into the present. Neither statement would be precisely correct in any case, because your present is a poised balance affected as much by the probable future as the probable past.

At no time, as a rule, is your body not here to you. Your experience seems centered within it, with the rest of the world safely outside. However, the particular selectivity of your kind of consciousness rides over lapses that you do not recognize. In a manner of speaking, your bodies blink off and on like lights. Their reality fluctuates, from your standpoint. For that matter, so does the physical universe.

You can understand what is meant by saying that your consciousness fluctuatesfor each individual is aware of various intensities and concentrations. You are more alert, or, in your terms, more conscious on some occasions than others. Now the same applies to these units of consciousnessand to atoms, molecules, electrons, and other such phenomena. The world literally blinks off and on. This reality of fluctuation in no way bothers your own feeling of consistency, however. The "holes (spelled) of nonexistence" are plugged up by the process of selectivity. This process chooses significances then, again, around which experience is built, and around which "life" is felt. The very sensations of one kind of life then automatically set up barriers against other such "world-schemes" that do not correlate with their own.

It is impossible for you to examine an atom, a cell, or anything else except in your now. Period. Because your sense experience follows a time pattern that you can understand, then you take it for granted that a cell, for example, is the result of its past, and that its present condition arises from the past. The fetus grows into an adult, not because it is programmed from the past, but because it is to some extent precognitively aware of its probabilities, and from the "future" then imprints this information into the past structure.

From your viewpoint, however, an examination of a cell will not show you that, but only its present condition. It should appear obvious from what I am saying that neither future nor past is predetermined. From your platform of poised now-experience, You alter both the past and the future, and that alteration, that change, that action, causes your point of immediate sense life.

(Long pause.) The precious privacy of your existence, and indeed of your universe, is all the more miraculous, so to speak, precisely because its probable reality emerges from an infinite field of probabilities, each forever inviolate. (Long pause.) It is important that these ideas be considered.

You cannot separate your beliefs about reality from the reality that you experience. That is, your beliefs about reality form it. Your ideas about what is possible and what is not possible are reflected in all areas.

It is almost impossible to begin with concepts of one isolated universe, one self at the mercy of its past, one time sequence, and end up with any acceptable theory of a multi-dimensional soul or godhead that is anything else but a glorified personified concept of what you think man is.

Not only do your metaphysics and sciences suffer, but your daily experience as a human being is far less than it could be. There are, then, probabilities quite present, and for that matter biologically practical, that would allow for a change in individual consciousness so great as literally to propel the race into another level of experience entirely. As in your terms the cavemen ventured out into the daylight of the earth, so there is a time for man to venture out into a greater knowledge of his subjective reality, to explore the dimensions of selfhood and go beyond the small areas of himself in which he has thus far found shelter.

These quotes are from "The Unknown Reality" by Jane Roberts.

[Matti]

I must say that similarities between time concepts of Seth and TGD are amazing. I am totally convinced that doing good science is to achieve higher states of consciousness and to translate them to the existing language. Jane has used language of poetry and I have used language of mathematics. If my own view is correct (I hope that I am the lucky one: all prophets in qmind are absolutely certain that they have found the final truth!(:-)) , then I must conclude that the deepness of insights represented in Seth overcomes totally that of the models in fashion.

There is a sort of scientific and philosophical convergence going on where many of the concepts of modern physics like quantum computing are meeting concepts from ancient and modern spiritual teachings. The knowledge we gain from our work with the ORMUS materials will certainly accelerate this convergence.