Powder Properties
by Barry Carter
Various ORMUS researchers (some who have science degrees and some who do not) have made white powders of
gold using several different methods. Depending on the method used, the physical properties and behaviors of the
different white powders also differ. Additionally, ancient and modern alchemists have described an "oil of gold"
which can also be made using different methods.
Since David Hudson did not provide any pictures of his product I am going to describe similarities and differences
of different forms of white powder gold using photographs taken by a Ph.D. chemist when he replicated Hudson's
process.
According to Hudson, you must get your gold into a dark green chloride solution before you dry it out. You can see
such a chloride solution this chemist made from gold metal using Hudson's method at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/g-orme%20Cl05.JPG
Before final heat drying of his product, Hudson described a gray powder. You can see a picture of the comparable
powder that the chemist made at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/HAu02.JPG
I do not have a picture of the white powder that this chemist made but an amateur alchemist also replicated
Hudson's method and produced the white powder illustrated here:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/WG1a.jpg
David Hudson says that his white powder of gold, to a lesser extent, and his white powder of iridium, to a greater
extent, both levitate in a magnetic field.
Another professional scientist named August made the white powder of rhodium, the white powder of iridium and the
white powder of gold using David Hudson's patent method and "annealing" process. These white powders can be
seen at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/white-m-powder.jpg
You can see an early green gold "chloride" stage of August's process at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/m-aucl.JPG
Here is a picture of a later green iridium "chloride" stage:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/green-ir.jpg
August "annealed" and tested his white powders at a California university in 2002. You can see a scanning electron
microscope image of his white powder of gold taken at this California university at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/Image24.JPG
I helped my friend Jim, who's formal scientific training is in electronics, make the gray powder of gold using his
own "energetic" ozone method. You can see the green "chloride" form of this product at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/mgold009.jpg
I dried some of this form of ORMUS gold into the gray powder illustrated at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/JumpingGold.jpg
Though it is the same gray color as the unannealed powder from Hudson's method this gray powder of gold levitates
on a magnetic field while the gray powder made using Hudson's method does not. You can see the video I made of it
levitating at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/JumpingAu.wmv
All three of these gentlemen had their final product professionally assayed and all three assays registered gold in
the low PPM range.
It should be quite apparent by now that the different methods used to make these unassayable forms of gold produce
powders with different physical properties.
This suggests that it is reasonable to assume that the chemical interactions of these powders will also be
different.
On May 7th, 1997, Jim and I were experimenting with a method to make the green gold chloride solution using an
electric transformer which was connected to the outside of a test tube with some gold beads in the bottom with an
inch or so of hydrochloric acid covering them. The gold was not dissolving so I suggested that we try adding some
food grade 35% hydrogen peroxide. When we did this the HCl solution started turning green. You can find a picture
of some of the off-white precipitate I made using the peroxide process at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/whiteprecips.jpg
The m-gold is on the right.
I was videotaping this process so I still have the actual video of our original discovery that one can dissolve
gold using hydrogen peroxide in hydrochloric acid. You can see an image captured from this video at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/jim13.jpg
I was in close communication with one of David Hudson's chemists at the time and I told him about this method for
dissolving gold into the green gold chloride solution. In 1999, at his second Dallas lecture, David Hudson
mentioned that he had modified and shortened his process by using hydrochloric acid with hydrogen peroxide instead
of aqua regia. This meant that he did not have to get rid of the nitric acid before proceeding with his method.
I also told Hudson's chemist about the Essene's Sodium Burn method and apparently this made it back to Hudson too.
Ron Talmage said that he talked to David Hudson a year or so ago and Hudson said that the Sodium Burn method works
well for making the white powder of the precious elements. Hudson's chemist is currently with a company that sells
an ORMUS product that is made from rock using the Sodium Burn method.
The Sodium Burn method produces a white powder of gold as a precipitate without "annealing". You can see some of
the white gold precipitate that the Essene made at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/auprecip.JPG
The m-gold precipitate is in the bottle toward the front.
This m-gold was in solution at pH 14 after being boiled in sodium hydroxide solution but it dropped out as the pH
was lowered toward 8.5. If one then washes the precipitate and does not completely dry it, one can put it back into
solution by dropping the pH down to 4 or lower.
You can then bring the pH back up to neutral, without getting a precipitate, if you use a very dilute sodium
hydroxide solution. If you continue to bring the pH upward you will find that the white precipitate again starts to
form as you get toward 8.5 and will all have dropped out by 10.78.
Similarities between this chemical behavior and the behavior of the Wet Method precipitation process caused the
Essene to equate the two. He also says that he has made gold and other metals from the ocean water precipitates and
from the white precipitates of rock source materials. In October of 2000 the Essene showed me some of the metal he
made from one of these precipitates and I took a picture of it, which you can see at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/ingot1.jpg
I am not sure if this ingot was made from ocean water precipitate or from rock source precipitate but I am sure
that the Essene told me repeatedly that he has made gold, rhodium and iridium from ocean water precipitate. He also
told me repeatedly that the white precipitate from Pacific Ocean water is 40 to 50 percent rhodium, iridium and
gold in the m-state based on his own assays. The Essene is a professional metallurgical consultant who has made his
living assaying precious metals. He still does this work for various clients in the mining industry, on
occasion.
I suspect that the Meissner effect is the reason that the ORMUS materials, as they occur in nature, do not show up
in spectroscopy. The Meissner effect excludes various fields from a superconductor and I believe that this
exclusion is why the ORMUS elements do not read in the same way as their metallic counterparts when exposed to
various energies in conventional spectroscopy.
When I first discovered the peroxide method for making the white powder of gold in May of 1997, Jim told me that I
had to keep salt in the solution; otherwise the ORMUS gold would levitate out of the solution into the air and be
lost. In subsequent experiments later that year, I tested this hypothesis by leaving salt out as I was raising the
pH with the solution on a live electric burner. Here is my report from that time (7/20/97):
I continued adding TSP and started adding lye water (one half tablespoon of lye in a cup of water). I
was adding these with an eye dropper about a dropper full at a time. As the solution got closer to pH 7 it
started to loose the green color.
While I was stirring in the TSP and lye solutions I noticed that I was feeling quite high. It was a
bit like a pot high, but without the distortion and memory loss that pot gives. I also noticed my lips were
getting quite sweet and slippery. I asked the experienced person about this. The reply was that this is quite
common when working with these materials. To avoid it you should put some pure, lab grade, sodium chloride in
with your working solution. Without the salt, the m-state material will evaporate with the water and much of it
will be lost.
When I reached pH 7 I slowed down to a drop by drop addition with the eyedropper. Despite my
precautions, I overshot and took the solution up to pH 12 or higher. (Since there is not likely to be anything
precipitating out of this solution but gold, I did not worry about producing a Gilcrest precipitate.) When the
pH went up to 12 the solution quickly turned from a colorless transparent liquid to a candy apple red color
which soon showed some red precipitate. I added some HCl to bring the pH back down to neutral but the color
stayed. I gradually added lye water to bring the pH up to about 10 and then took the solution off the burner to
cool.
During this process I was noticing that the "high" feeling was becoming more and more pronounced. It
never caused any dysfunction but I decided that I should be very meticulous and careful to avoid doing anything
clumsy.
As the solution cooled, the precipitate darkened to a rich purple red color. The precipitate that
collected at the bottom was a dark purple, about the color of grape juice. I left this stuff to settle out over
night and this morning I centrifuged out most of the precipitate that had collected on the bottom of the
graduated cylinder. There was about 3 ml of the wet precipitate. I centrifuged and washed the precipitate three
times and tasted a very small amount of the material. It had the same neutral taste that I expect from this
stuff. It also gave me a buzz like breathing it had last night.
Later I used a magnetic stirrer on another solution that I made the same way and noticed some definite magnetic
effects on the solids:
I concentrated the precipitate which dropped the quickest and put the remainder in a quart glass
canister with a plastic sealing lid. I then set this canister on a magnetic stirrer which has a u shaped
magnetic element. When I turned it on I noticed that there were two or three particles which seemed to move in
response to the magnet. These particles, or aggregations of particles, were somewhat elongated and had two
motions. They would spin around their internal axis at approximately the same speed as the magnetic stirrer.
They would also orbit around the center of the container in an orbit which did not exceed an inch in diameter.
This motion was much slower, probably since the viscosity of the water prevented faster movement. I could get
these little structures to spin on their own axis quite rapidly simply by increasing the speed of the stirrer.
They seemed to maintain a distance of about a quarter inch above the bottom of the glass canister.
When I tried these experiments with salt added, none of these things happened.
Early on, I asked a gentleman who had worked closely with David Hudson about any "secrets" that might help people
to replicate Hudson's method. I reported his response to the WhiteGold list in March of 1996:
It is not in the patent, but alchemists tell me that monoatomics which are in solution will go to a
gas if they are not stabilized with salt in the solution.
In our early experiments with magnetic traps, Jim and I found that they do not work very well on salt water. You
can read my description of how I ran a couple hundred gallons of ocean water through a magnetic trap here:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/ocean.htm
Nevertheless, Jim, using a very strong pulsed magnetic field was able to levitate a presumed ORMUS gas out of an
ORMUS rich salty solution as described at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/pmf.htm
Based on these and other experiences, I would suggest the following hypotheses:
1. Salt limits the anti-magnetic responses of the ORMUS elements.
2. Ocean water and ocean water precipitate, because of the salt in it, does not exhibit magnetic levitation
properties at typical magnetic field strengths.
3. The Meissner effect, or some other superconductivity related effect, prevents the ORMUS elements, as they occur
in nature, from showing up in conventional spectroscopy.
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