Gas ORMUS
by Barry Carter
Various ORMUS reseachers have suggested that the ORME elements can remain in a monatomic or diatomic state by
"hiding out" inside of a clathrate box or cage molecule. Here is a
part of the Wikipedia definition of clathrate:
A clathrate or clathrate compound or cage compound is a chemical substance consisting of a lattice of one type of
molecule trapping and containing a second type of molecule. The word clathrate is derived from the Latin clatratus
meaning with bars or a lattice.[1] An example of a clathrate is clathrate hydrate, a special type of gas hydrate in
which a lattice of water molecules encloses molecules of a trapped gas. Scientists believe that compounds on the
sea bed have trapped large amounts of methane in similar configurations. Researchers have begun to investigate
silicon and germanium clathrates for possible semiconducting and superconducting properties.
You can read the rest of the definition at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrates
In his 1995 Portland lecture David Hudson said:
"This little zero point frequency I showed you between the positron and the electron; if you follow
that right up the electromagnetic spectrum, it agrees with the molecular frequency of hydrogen dioxide, or
water. So there is an affinity for this material and water. That's why it is normally taken in water. When you
come to understand that your body is, in fact, mainly water. That, literally, this material when you distill
water it distills with the water as the oridide, the iridide, the ruthidide. Just like chlorine. And so if you
distill water thinking you are getting high purity water, it goes with the water. And it literally changes the
bond angles of the water. That one iridium atom controls 56 waters of hydration around itself. And all the bond
angles of all 56 waters are altered when iridium is present. I haven't carefully studied the research work of
people working with water but I strongly suspect that their water isn't completely pure and they are finding
that the bond angles can be changed. There is something else besides H2O in the water."
This quote suggests that the ORMUS elements go with water when it evaporates. Hudson claims that "one iridium atom
controls 56 waters of hydration around itself". This is a pretty good description of a clathrate and fits well with
Dr. Martin Chaplin's postulates that water clathrates can hold various gas atoms. See Dr. Chaplin's articles on
this at:
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/evidnc.html
and:
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/clathrate.html
Note that the first link has the following statement:
"Dodecahedral clusters containing NH4+, K+ and Cs+ have also been found in ionized liquid water in
the gas phase by mass spectrometry"
Clathrate or "box" chemistry has been my preferred hypothesis for explaining how ORMUS might
interact with chemical and biological systems for quite a while. Jim and I first discussed this concept in June of
1997. On July 4, 1997 I posted the following note about one of our discussions on The Work which was one of the first technical ORMUS email forums:
I learned a great deal from Jim while we worked together for a couple of days. Jim says that the
materials that the scientist is revealing with his m-state processes are always in the solution but that the
scientist just builds a chemical box to manipulate them and make them visible. Jim also says that there are
many other chemical and magnetic boxes that you can use to extract and manipulate these materials
with.
I suspect that all of the methods we are using so far are only opening a few of the boxes that these
materials are stored in.
On October17, 1999 I wrote the following to the ORMUS SWG
forum:
I imagine that these elements are like greased bowling balls that you want to move around. While you
cannot pick them up directly you can roll them into a box and pick up the box. They seem to "like" tight
spaces. Might certain biological systems use their properties by capturing them in ring or box
molecules?
On June 13, 2001 I wrote the article on "ORMUS Box Chemistry" at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/box.htm
Note that Hudson said:
And so if you distill water thinking you are getting high purity water, it goes with the
water.
This suggests that Hudson is convinced that ORMUS has a room temperature gas form.
David Hudson is not the only ORMUS researcher that has reported a gas form of ORMUS. In 1991, before I ever heard
of David Hudson, my friend Jim told me about the gas form of the ORME materials he was exposed to at the mine site
he was treating with ozone. (Jim did not call them ORMEs at the time. He generally called it the "snot".) Later, in
1995, I recorded Jim talking about these experiences and he often described situations that indicated a gas form
for the ORMEs he was working with. Here is one small example from this recording that I transcribed:
[JIM] I could ride in a brand new car one time and two days later I would see it going down the
road and the side where I was on and right where I was sitting the glass would be fogged from condensate drops
forming on the glass when the rest of the windows were clear.
[BARRY] Two days later?
[JIM] You know it's just when I happened to notice it. It was real weird. That's one of the
things I definitely remember. Everybody goes "well big deal it's fog" and I said yea, go ahead and turn on the
defroster. Cause once it started forming . . . even my Camero had some of it that would form; that clear
gelatinous material right under the vent, right out of the output vents of the heater where it meets the
windshield. And I would have that stuff literally lined up across it. You can't hardly wipe it off. It's like
having Armor All on your windshield, only it doesn't stay fog free. It makes it fog up.
I saw this "fog" material on the windshield of Jim's Camero and it is exactly as Jim described.
Jim also converted metal into ORMEs using ozone. When working with Jim on these conversions I witnessed several
things that suggested a room temperature S-ORME gas was formed. In one case I videotaped a conversation with Jim
where a piece of glass placed over some ORME rhodium/iridium had a "fog" condense on it. This oily liquid had the
same properties as the oily liquid that condensed on the windshield of Jim's Camero. You can see a video of this
liquid condensate at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/oil-glass.wmv
Kevin, in Australia, figured out another way to make an ORME oil from air and water using ether to concentrate the
ORME oil. You can read about Kevin's air trap at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/airtrap.htm
On December 5, 2006 I spoke with Jim about trapping ORMEs out of the air. On that same day I reported what he said
about the air trap on the ORMUS Scientific Workgroup forum. Here is what I wrote:
Jim also built an air trap and converted the ORMUS he got out of the air into metal. He said the trap
ran 23 CFM of air for several hours. The metal from this trap was 76% silver with most of the remainder being
copper. He said there was also a trace of gold. He also mentioned that the metal took longer than usual to show
up using his conversion methods.
I seriously doubt that metallic silver, copper and gold would float in the air as a gas. The S-ORME form of these
elements, however, would be likely to do so.
In one of his conference calls, Michael Burbury described how he collected dew (from the air) and converted it into
a white powder that floated away from his hand. You can listen to Michael's description of the behavior of this
white powder, Jim's description of the behavior of the dried "snot" from his mine clean up process and David
Hudson's description of the behavior of his white powder at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/flyashall.mp3
In his lectures David Hudson said that this particular behavior was the indicator for superconductivity that was
claimed in his patent. If Hudson's patent claim of room temperature superconductivity is valid it would make sense
that Michael's levitating dew precipitate is an indicator that S-ORMEs are present in the air.
When I visited Kevin at his lab in Australia he also described how he used copper sulfate as a chemical trap to
extract ORMEs from the air. Copper sulfate is highly toxic when dissolved in water but, after collecting ORMEs from
the air for a few weeks, a water solution of copper sulfate supports the growth of mold. This combination of ORMEs
from the air and copper sulfate also dissolves glass as you can see at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/dissolve-glass.jpg
Ordinary copper sulfate in water does not dissolve silica.
When Jim and I visited the Essene in August of 1999, Jim and the Essene talked about the "oil form" of the ORME
materials. Here is a bit of that conversation:
The Essene: It is real easy to get the oil, and it won't evaporate unless you really work on
it.
Jim: When I was doing the trap rhodium it was very much so like the gold, as he describes it. I had a
vacuum chamber and I would put that trap mono in the vacuum chamber and literally pull a vacuum on it and the
water would boil out and it would leave me with this oily stuff that’s like hi-vac grease. It’s thick, very,
very tough to wipe off; to clean up. It went into plastics, it went into everything.
Essene: And glass like it was welded.
Jim: Exactly, it ruined the glassware. And when I did conversion it’s just like cutting the glassware
right where my water level was when I [?][?]. Like neutron tunneling does…That’s exactly what this stuff does
when I would pull it from that grease state into something that I could precipitate.
Kevin described an ORME like substance that would dissolve glass which he trapped from the air. Jim described a
similar substance which would dissolve glass which he trapped from water. The Essene said that some of his ORME
products made glass look like it was welded. This sounds like a repeated pattern to me.
During the same visit with the Essene Jim gave a rather long discourse on the potency of the ORME gas:
Jim: … he does it by distillation. He goes directly to a gas phase. He collects the gold gas by
bubbling it through HCl as he pulls the fumes off. The higher its energy the more volatile it is, the more
sensitive it is to magnetic fields, and the more intoxicating it is. And it is quite intoxicating. Before I
started using magnetic stoppers on the glassware, whenever I hit it with ozone I would get nuked out of my
gourd so that I could hardly think. I would have to leave and come back to it. Yeah, very, very intoxicating. I
mean even micrograms of this stuff. When we boiled off some of the vapor in the shop the 2 who were with me
literally had out-of-body experiences while walking back up to the house. They were watching themselves walk up
the stairs from 5 feet up and 3 feet behind type thing. Scary.
John L, he's a kick boxer I knew a very good kick boxer who got his leg snapped off above the ankle.
Being the bulldog he was he finished the fight. But he ground gravel into the bone in the process. Not only did
he develop a severe limp down the road but he also developed bone cancer. He took the monatomic iridium. And
uh, I think we also had some gold in that mix. He took it via a single dose. I had him hold a container of
mono. He was interested in it, he took a magnet and went like this by the bottle once and it dosed him
severely. Within 5 minutes he took a 20 minute nap, which was very common. He got up feeling good but still
tired. Within a week his apprentice said, "hey, John, what happened to you; you quit limping!" He went back in,
his bone cancer was definitely taken care of within 2 weeks. Pulse normal, the whole 9 yards. Within the matter
of a month his leg was straight, he didn't walk with a limp, and he had feeling in his foot. Everyone who takes
our mono for cancer has the 'sleepy' reaction.
I take that back on the time table. His cancer was gone and he was complaining about a dull ache in
his leg. Then it was some 10 days later that he wasn't limping any more. Every one of the cancer patients
complains about dull aches in their old injuries. It works on it chronologically. It's very strange. When they
start complaining about dull aches in their old injuries, consistently the cancer was already gone at that
point and it was working on something else.
and:
Jim: If I hit the stuff with acid without salt in it you can literally see heat wave-like vapor
coming off.
I also experienced some psychological effects of ORME gold gas when I heated the green liquid I made from gold
using the peroxide method and raised the pH using lye and tri-sodium phosphate TSP solutions. You can see the green
gold chloride I made at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/greengold.jpg
Here is a brief description of my experience from just breathing the ORME gold gas:
I continued adding TSP and started adding lye water (one half tablespoon of lye in a cup of water). I
was adding these with an eye dropper about a dropper full at a time. As the solution got closer to pH 7 it
started to loose the green color.
While I was stirring in the TSP and lye solutions I noticed that I was feeling quite high. It was a
bit like a pot high, but without the distortion and memory loss that pot gives. I also noticed my lips were
getting quite sweet and slippery. I asked the experienced person about this. The reply was that this is quite
common when working with these materials. To avoid it you should put some pure, lab grade, sodium chloride in
with your working solution. Without the salt, the m-state material will evaporate with the water and much of it
will be lost.
When I reached pH 7 I slowed down to a drop by drop addition with the eyedropper. Despite my
precautions, I overshot and took the solution up to pH 12 or higher. (Since there is not likely to be anything
precipitating out of this solution but gold, I did not worry about producing a Gilcrest precipitate.) When the
pH went up to 12 the solution quickly turned from a colorless transparent liquid to a candy apple red color
which soon showed some red precipitate. I added some HCl to bring the pH back down to neutral but the color
stayed. I gradually added lye water to bring the pH up to about 10 and then took the solution off the burner to
cool.
During this process I was noticing that the "high" feeling was becoming more and more pronounced. It
never caused any dysfunction but I decided that I should be very meticulous and careful to avoid doing anything
clumsy.
This was the most profound psychological effect I ever experienced after ingesting any ORMUS product. I did not
feel anything like this when I ingested David Hudson's product.
You can read the rest of my account at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/goldto-m.htm
Other ORMUS researchers have also given us evidence that ORMEs have a gas state. You can read about August's
observations and see his pictures of this at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/airgold.htm
Don Nance's observations (with pictures) are at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/airormus.htm
Dr. John Milewski's observations and pictures are at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/ormusgas.htm
Chaz Guest also reported that gold metal
appeared inside the light bulb above the sink and garbage disposal where he washed all of his ORME products. In
order to get into the light bulb, the gold would have to have been in a gas form on the way up. You can see a
picture I took of this light bulb at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/lightbulb.jpg
You can hear Chaz describing his experiences working with this S-ORME gas at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/chaz.mp3
I think that the best description of the S-ORME gas is probably Jim's description of what happened when he hit some
of his Hot Rocks material with a strong pulsed magnetic field. You can read about this at:
http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/pmf.htm
It seems that the ORMUS researchers who spend the most time working with the ORME materials consistently believe
and consistently share evidence that ORMEs have a gas form.
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