Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 20:25:31 +1100
From: Kevin Masman <masmans@castlemaine.net.au>
Subject: Re: TheWork: Magnetic Traps

A magnetic trap was made up according to Barry's design. I processed bore (hard) water which has TDS of 2000 ppm, mostly NaCl and Calcium salts (little magnesium). I got a slightly oily water (only half a litre after 3 hours of running the trap) to which I added ether (di-ethyl)- 30 mls, shook vigourously and let the ether rise to the top as a discreet layer. This separation of the ether layer on top took a longer time compared to shaking it with pure water. The ether layer was colourless. This was separated with a separating funnel and the ether allowed to evaporate in the open on a Petrie dish.

There was a white-ish grease left at the end, soluble in absolute alcohol, but not water. This is why I asked about the trap matter in a previous post being soluble in alcohol or not, according to other peoples experience. It has a slight smell and is almost tasteless.

I will try a stepper motor magnet which I got from an auto wrecker to see if it is more efficient. The white grease appeared in a second separation using ether as well.

PS I got a grease when I mixed this bore water with bentonite, a clay. The bore water has a vortexing water conditioner in line to soften the hard water. This conditioner adds 'electrons' to water passing through from an earth stake which it is attached to. When I left the water over the clay, a white grease formed on top, which looks exactly the same as the trap grease.

PPs This grease I saw some years ago when I worked (crystallised and when dry ground together rrepeatedly) potassium nitrate with quartz. The grease appeared when the mix was lightly calcined and extracted with ethanol. It worked sometimes and not at others.

Regards,
Kevin.

Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 09:46:13 -0800
To: TheWork@zz.com
From: Barry Carter <bcarter@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Re: TheWork: Magnetic Traps

Dear Kevin,

Great work!!!

At 08:25 PM 1/4/99 +1100, you wrote:
>A magnetic trap was made up according to Barry's design. I processed bore
>(hard) water which has TDS of 2000 ppm, mostly NaCl and Calcium salts
>(little magnesium). I got a slightly oily water (only half a litre after 3
>hours of running the trap) to which I added ether (di-ethyl)- 30 mls, shook
>vigourously and let the ether rise to the top as a discreet layer. This
>separation of the ether layer on top took a longer time compared to shaking
>it with pure water. The ether layer was colourless. This was separated with
>a separating funnel and the ether allowed to evaporte in the open on a
>Petrie dish.

Jim claims that hydrocarbons tend to move the m-state "snot" toward metal. He says that the more volitile hydrocarbons do this more than the less volitile. Since diethyl ether is a very volitile hydrocarbon (C2H5OC2H5) it moves toward metal more than most.

I think that any single chemical step toward metal will not complete the process but that several steps must be used in conjunction.

A small meter for measuring electrostatic energy is quite useful for measuring or at least identifying the presence of m-state elements. Jim has modified an electrostatic meter to be more sensitive but claims that a simple meter can be made from Radio Shack parts. He has promised to give me a design and parts list one of these days.

According to Jim's theory, electrostatic meters measure weak beta radiation from the m-state elements.

>There was a white-ish grease left at the end, soluble in absolute alcohol,
>but not water. This is why I asked about the trap matter in a previous post
>being soluble in alcohol or not, according to other peoples experience. It
>has a slight smell and is almost tasteless.

I read your note to Jim and he said that this sounds about right. He says that he never separated with ether but just used alcohol in the first place. The concentrated m-snot is hydrophobic but will dissolve in alcohol.

>I will try a stepper motor magnet which I got from an auto wrecker to see
>if it is more efficient. The white grease appeared in a second separation
>using ether as well.

So this process has worked time after time. :-)

>PS I got a grease when I mixed this bore water with bentonite, a clay. The
>bore water has a vortexing water conditioner in line to soften the hard
>water. This conditioner adds 'electrons' to water passing through from an
>earth stake which it is attached to. When I left the water over the clay, a
>white grease formed on top, which looks exactly the same as the trap
>grease.

Run the alcohol test to see if this grease has the same properties as the other.

>PPs This grease I saw some years ago when I worked (crystallised and when
>dry ground together rrepeatedly) potassium nitrate with quartz. The grease
>appeared when the mix was lightly calcined and extracted with ethanol. It
>worked sometimes and not at others.

This sounds like the same thing, according to Jim.

--
With kindest regards,

Barry Carter
<bcarter@igc.apc.org>
Blue Mountain Native Forest Alliance
WEB Page: http://www.OrmusMinerals.com/bmnfa/index.htm
Voice: 541-523-3357

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:09:32 +1100
From: Kevin Masman <masmans@castlemaine.net.au>
Organization: Masman Envirosurveys
To: TheWork@zz.com
Subject: Re: TheWork: control expt.

Dear Bruce & Jenny,

With a partner, I plan to run rain water through the trap to see if the 'oiliness' developes. Also with putrefied rain water (water left in a wood barrel in the sun until it developes a algae/bacteria/yeast culture and appears milky). I have worked putrefied rain water in the past by distilling it and there is a white salt left at the end and a sweet smelling clear/yellow oil. This is a traditional alchemical work. The salt is not leached from the wood, as it works in plastic barrels as well, but the cultures don't do so well biologically in plastic.

Another technique that has worked well in the past is fractional freezing, ie
freeze half the water in a plastic drink bottle. Break the ice, pour the water
fraction through a strainer and repeat until there is about 10% of the starting
volume. This water is oily as well.

Prof Brown, of Brown's gas fame advocated this for drinking water. He learned it from the Tibetan healers. Wilhelm Reich used this technique for isolating 'bions' a yellow living fraction from rain water, closely connected to orgone (or rather, concentrated orgone). Both these are long stories.

Regards,
Kevin

Bruce/Jenny Bartlett wrote:

> Hi Barry,
>
> Have you ever tried a control experiment with the magnetic trap, in which
> you run distilled water through the trap? I was wondering if the trap's
> vortex action increases the water's viscosity, apart from any ORMUS materials.
>
> Also, I suggest that you put your pH 3 technique for making monoatomic gold
> chloride in the Addendum to the Work's public document. That's a major
> finding.
>
> Best,
> Bruce

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 04:59:34 -0800
To: TheWork@zz.com
From: Barry Carter <bcarter@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Re: TheWork: control expt.

Dear Kevin,

At 01:09 PM 1/6/99 +1100, you wrote:

>With a partner, I plan to run rain water through the trap to see if the
'oiliness'
>developes. Also with putrefied rain water (water left in a wood barrel in
the sun
>until it developes a algae/bacteria/yeast culture and appears milky). I have
>worked putrefied rain water in the past by distilling it and there is a
white salt
>left at the end and a sweet smelling clear/yellow oil. This is a traditional
>alchemical work. The salt is not leached from the wood, as it works in
plastic
>barrels as well, but the cultures don't do so well biologically in plastic.

It is fairly clear that distillation does not eliminate all of the ORMUS from water, but it is also clear that it removes some portion. I am anxious to hear the results of your test. I hope that you will take care to use gravity flow with your rain water experiments rather than using an electric pump which could muck everything up.

>Another technique that has worked well in the past is fractional freezing, ie
>freeze half the water in a plastic drink bottle. Break the ice, pour the water
>fraction through a strainer and repeat until there is about 10% of the
>starting volume. This water is oily as well.

Jim also has mentioned that fractional freezing is a good process but he suggests that the m-state elements could almost be distilled by freezing and catching whatever goes into the atmosphere in the freezing process. He says that they like warmth.

>Prof Brown, of Brown's gas fame advocated this for drinking water. He
learned it
>from the Tibetan healers. Wilhelm Reich used this technique for isolating
'bions'
>a yellow living fraction from rain water, closely connected to orgone (or
rather,
>concentrated orgone). Both these are long stories.

This kind of information is quite valuable for suggesting areas of research. I really appreciate your contributions.

--
With kindest regards,

Barry Carter

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:50:39 +1100
From: Kevin Masman <masmans@castlemaine.net.au>
Organization: Masman Envirosurveys
To: TheWork@zz.com
Subject: Re: TheWork: control expt.

> >Another technique that has worked well in the past is fractional freezing, ie
> >freeze half the water in a plastic drink bottle. Break the ice, pour the
> water
> >fraction through a strainer and repeat until there is about 10% of the
> starting
> >volume. This water is oily as well.
>
> Jim also has mentioned that fractional freezing is a good process but he
> suggests that the m-state elements could almost be distilled by freezing
> and catching whatever goes into the atmosphere in the freezing process. He
> says that they like warmth.

Then I think it is a good idea to explore the repulsion or ORMES to ice formation. The freezing is done in an enclosed bottle- they have nowhere to go, except the liquid fraction in the centre of the ice. If they like warmth, then they will surely concentrate in the warmer water phase over the ice phase. The inner water phase never gets to be frozen, just separated from the ice.

In the several fractional freezings I have done in the last day or two on trap water, I have used the di-ethyl ether as a final collection technique. What I find is that the ether merges with the 'last water phase' water, and doesn't separate and float on top. Its mixed in. That's what I meant in a previous post by the surfactant/detergent effect. This is not the way ether interacts with distilled water- where it quickly separates. I have had the starting bore water analysed and there are no organics in it at all- nothing that could be a detergent.

Regards,
Kevin.

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:50:35 +1100
From: Kevin Masman <masmans@castlemaine.net.au>
Organization: Masman Envirosurveys
To: TheWork@zz.com
Subject: Re: TheWork: Big Picture

Dear List,

I have been hankering after an overview for a while now. Some thoughts...

Alchemy says the phil stone is the 'Quintessence', ripened fixed, fire resistant and in full power. The quintessence (QE) is the 5th element. "It is not one of the 4 elements but one of the 3 (essences) ie Mercury". It operates within the 4 elements and can be found in the 4 elements. The 4 elements are earth (solids), water (liquids) and air (gases) and fire (radiant energy). If (!) ORMES are QE then they may be found in (all) the 4 elements.

This may be why ORMES differ in property according to where separate get them from. Maybe...

1. Earth- the inert ceramic form, not soluble in acids etc per David Hudson.

2. Water- the 'M-snot' or clear grease from the traps, soluble in non polar organics, but not common water (ie not one of the 4) etc. [Chinese vortexing water = Shui]

3. Air- the cold air from the vortex tube in the reference that Barry found. Maybe we could get one of those commercial cold jet units and bubble the cold air thru distilled water and see if the water becomes oily????? [Chinese vortexing air = Feng]

4. Fire- an example may be the Callahan ELF radiation devices, where the QE may be found in natural scatter radiation, which when concentrated can heal (as opposed to a microwave oven- all fire- no included QE).

Perhaps we can eventually find out how these seeming diverse life/healing sciences fit together- see the big picture of how and where the QE manifests in Nature, and perhaps just how all pervasive Life is on our planet.

Any thoughts??

Regards,
Kevin

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:50:33 +1100
From: Kevin Masman <masmans@castlemaine.net.au>
Organization: Masman Envirosurveys
To: TheWork@zz.com
Subject: Re: TheWork: Big Picture

Dear List,

I too would like to add my voice to the Barry chorus. Your summary and stock take was good, and timely.

Just one of the things that was helpful I thought, was the analogy to the Rosetta stone, to give all the diverse discussions a context.

I see better now that this group works in 2 areas- (a) the Rosetta stone- information gathering, links and translations etc (b) a practical exploration of the nature of the ORMUS- repeatable work on extraction of , nature of , and uses of ORMUS

There is something in (b) that I think needs addressing. David Hudson's version of ORME physico-chemical properties are a little at variance with the precipitate, as I understand it. My ppt from conc sea water did not dissolve initially in HCl (5 molar) but later on it did so, slowly. The magnetic trap grease has very different solubility properties to both David's ORMES and the ppt ORMUS.

Either we have 3 different materials or they are various manifestations of the same- in which case David Hudson's explanations are not fully developed. Jim's electroplating of gold from the 'M-snot' etc is compelling for the 3 being various manifestations of one fundamental substance. I think we need to aim at a model to sort it out in our minds (like the periodic table sorts out the chemical element pattern). Thus my QE attempt.

Why is M state found in environmental waters (thus the sea eventually) when they are, according to Hudson, so insoluble? Maybe I have missed something. If it's the same essential stuff he has got, then clearly they can also be soluble. Is ORMUS activated in some way to change from inert to soluble in nature? His model is probably not complete.

If the magnetic trap method becomes a fully workable and reliable method then I see many applications- not the least agriculture/food production.

But for now there is a need in my view, to confirm Jim's electroplated metal from M-snot (let's get a better name for this) by different people. I am in the process of assembling the power supply- the 5.5 V control etc, in between family duties, income duties etc.

On the Rosetta stone- a valuable indication of the presence of superconductors in humans and (food) plants is the extensive work of Prof Fritz Albert Popp in Germany, who did a lot of visible light photon storage and emmission work. His bioelectromagnetics work included a survey on light emmission from ripening fruit- and indicator he developed and used to measure food vitality. Hydroponic produce did not do too well. He hinted that there must be some factor in the soil. Organic farm produce emits far more light as it ripens, and is detectable with a sensitive photomultiplier. I don't have an electronic synopsis...anyone.... Popp is a friend of Callahan.

Kindest Regards,
Kevin

PS I agree with the gist of what Parush wrote today about Artephius- the general process, the bottom line test etc. But I disagree with the point about lead acetate being a useful starting material. Nothing living will come from a dead chemical- unless the starting chemical is specially treated. 'Antimony' referred to a material that became pre-enlivened and ripened before the distillation train bit- also called 'saturna' (feminine latin noun referring to another matter, but which many think was common lead), and 'sericon' meaning 'that which is reddened' or 'full of the red'....

But I can truly understand Buzz's feeling, that a high traffic discussion like this can hijack a forum's focus when most members don't have the background to appreciate the finer points. I would prefer to focus on the practical- especially the magnetic trap, and if an alchemical link becomes obvious, then I would like to share it.

Full moon/eclipse dew is amazing. I get grease with ether direct. Ammonia was then added after all grease was extracted this way. The ammonia was evaporated off (to pH7) and ether - more grease. The idea behind this, was the rosicrucian alchemists that worked out, that even commercial ammonia has a direct link to the 'universal spirit'. If ammonia turns out to be the medium in which orme grease can multiply, it would be a very good practical implementation of the definition of an alchemical product- as given by Fr Albertus. He said that an alchemical product has the nature of a 'ferment'. It is similar to sour dough (by analogy). A catalytic bit (sour dough yeast) ferments the whole dough to sour dough. Take a bit of this and it will ferment another batch of dough to sour dough. The (alchemical) catalytic 'starter' is one thing, and a medium in which it propagates is another. In alchemy it is all happening in the 'mineral', rather than a yeast of course.

The sample of full moon dew (-second generation) now looks like it has grease in it but I won't count the chickens. It is milky with the ether  in it, which in past ether work on trap waters, has produced grease. I digest in warmth for 3 days. So far it is day 2. I'll let you know.

The taste of the greases ex ether is 'fresh'. The best way to describe it, is that it is the taste equivalent of the smell of the first rain drops on parched earth- 'sweet', earthy, fresh.

I put some bore mag trap water grease on warmth (110 deg centigrade) and it goes red over 24 hours, and lets go a clear volatile oil with this fresh taste. The red resin left tastes hot like pepper. The pepper burning taste lasted for a few hours. Within these hours I rapidly came down with a cold (co-incidence???)

There is some carbon in the ether extract greases as evidenced by the addition of sulphuric acid- carbon forms. There is, after all carbon is removed, a yellow, water soluble (sulphate) salt. According to chemical properties, there shouldn't be a cation soluble in ether in the bore water to start with.

[Ether Method]